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by **Joetx** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:56 pm

First-Aid wrote:Once again, being a cheap-ass pays off in the end. I refused to splurge on the Henkei. I refused to splurge on the BotCon set. Now I am rewarded for being cheap with the completion of my Classics seekers set...

...actually i was just too broke to get the other stuff...

Ditto.

Now if only Hasbro would release Botcon's Alpha Trion...

*crosses fingers*

Website · by **Takanuva** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:03 pm

Finally a Classics Wheeljack! It seems 2011 will be a good year for G1 fans. :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 pm

Come to think of it... :-?

In 25 years Hasbro will probably release completely new and updated versions of popular characters, even of characters they are currently updating? :shock:

Think about it.

How many people want voyager class Seekers? With the deluxe class G1 Seeker collection close to completion, we could be maybe a decade away from a completely new and larger mold with no undercarriage kibble. #-o

And with TF:Prime soon to be rolling out its first complete season it won't be long before we get a toy line that represents that series' representations of characters who have existed in numerous forms since their initial Diaclone release, among the other original toy lines that Transformers based itself off of.

Does that mean my retail Seeker collection will be worthless? What about my Classics/Generation/RTS collection? :???:

And what if the next set of movies features completely different engineering from anything we've seen before? =P~

And does the possible alteration to BB Prime for the new movie make the one I just picked up no longer unique? :BANG_HEAD:

And don't get me started on Bumblebee. Just the concept car releases of the first movie, the alterations for the second with the gun arm, the new molding for the upper body with the shoulder cannons, and of BBBB, which has been updated to represent the movie update as well as whatever that new gimmick is...

:BOOM:

I may as well stop collecting right now because it will all be redone bigger and better for the 50th anniversary.

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:19 pm

headsortails wrote:You know, I'm simply looking at it like this. It's great that Botcon does the exclusives, but not everyone can attend them all. And not everyone can afford to pay the price for them once they are in the secondary market at 15 times the original cost (i say that is unfair to a collector that loves them). I know I can't. And I know there are alot of people out there who can't either. Plus think of the kids who love transformers right now. I think these should be continued to be released for them too. Someone has to keep the line going for future generations. I know this ramble may not make sense, but it's all I got for right now. Even if Hasbro releasing toys brings down the value of exclusives, it's doing nothing more than showing us how stupid we are for spending the obscene amounts of money for these things.......

You're not rambling. I understand you perfectly, and I totally agree. ;)^

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:27 pm

Joetx wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Once again, being a cheap-ass pays off in the end. I refused to splurge on the Henkei. I refused to splurge on the BotCon set. Now I am rewarded for being cheap with the completion of my Classics seekers set...

...actually i was just too broke to get the other stuff...

Ditto.

Now if only Hasbro would release Botcon's Alpha Trion...

*crosses fingers*

I disagree with Hasbro releasing Botcon's Alpha Trion, that's their A3. They took a mold and found a way to make it better at a time when Hasbro was not remolding heads to match the repaints and name changes. That version belongs to them. If Hasbro does release an Alpha Trion (that has nothing to do with the movie-verse) I want a sleek mold that looks as much like the animation model as possible, in deluxe size. If there is a WFC Alpha Trion character model, I'll settle for that. But BCA3 is not a Seeker. So here's hoping for something else for us retail shoppers. :PRAY:

by **HalfOfMe** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:28 pm

Beautiful.

I'm sorry, but they have to release a new Skywarp now. That release a few years ago was just a cheap exclusive combo piece with a weak-looking color scheme and last-minute paint apps. To keep up with the current quality, and thus offer a truly complete array, they have to put out a new Skywarp.

by **Starscreams bad comedy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:30 pm

This great news. First the cone heads and now the original seekers shall be complete as well. Looks like Ill be doing another group review. :grin:

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:40 pm

You gotta be ****' kidding me... What's the point of buying a Botcon exclusive, a toy that's only made for a specific few, when it's just going to be released at retail 3 and a half years later? I hate this.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:47 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:You gotta be **** kidding me... What's the point of buying a Botcon exclusive, a toy that's only made for a specific few, when it's just going to be released at retail 3 and a half years later? I hate this.

The point is you still have a botcon exclusive. You will alway have a botcon exclusive. A generations release with a different deco doesn't change that. Yours will not crumble to dust now.

News Credits: 1 · by **chrisc4** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:48 pm

i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada? #-o

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:53 pm

chrisc4 wrote:i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada?

Rumble was the one that turned into a casette.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:54 pm

craggy wrote:
chrisc4 wrote:i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada?

Rumble was the one that turned into a casette.

Exactly, Wheelie is the one that rhymes.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:56 pm

craggy wrote:
chrisc4 wrote:i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada?

Rumble was the one that turned into a casette.

And the red one.

by **HalfOfMe** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:56 pm

Cyclonus is the tracker. Scourge has the generic armada. You gotta brush up on your G1! Scourge was barely even a character. He was practically just an easy write-in for disposable Decepticon soldiers. It was never clear if there was a real leader or just a hive-mind. They always kinda reminded me of the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz when I was a kid. Their ridiculous red nail polish didn't help me take them any more seriously. With that said, I'm definitely buying it, lol!

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:57 pm

HalfOfMe! "ridiculous red nail polish"? IT WAS PINK NAIL POLISH!

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:58 pm

It Is Him wrote:
craggy wrote:
chrisc4 wrote:i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada?

Rumble was the one that turned into a casette.

Exactly, Wheelie is the one that rhymes.

Truck not monkey.

Eeeeef. They used the Classics seeker mould. Scrap that bo'**** and make a new better seeker mould already!

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:01 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:You gotta be **** kidding me... What's the point of buying a Botcon exclusive, a toy that's only made for a specific few, when it's just going to be released at retail 3 and a half years later? I hate this.

You still have your exclusive. Hasbro's not busting into your house to steal it.

Oh, Thundercracker you sexy thing... come to Striker... =P~

by **HalfOfMe** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:02 pm

craggy wrote:HalfOfMe! "ridiculous red nail polish"? IT WAS PINK NAIL POLISH!

You're right, LOL! Whew, thanks for the clarification, man! I KNEW there was a reason I been feelin low on my G1 mojo lately! Oh no, the paint apps all wrong on this new mold, then! Someone call Hasbro!

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:04 pm

headsortails wrote:You know, I'm simply looking at it like this. It's great that Botcon does the exclusives, but not everyone can attend them all. And not everyone can afford to pay the price for them once they are in the secondary market at 15 times the original cost (i say that is unfair to a collector that loves them). I know I can't. And I know there are alot of people out there who can't either. Plus think of the kids who love transformers right now. I think these should be continued to be released for them too. Someone has to keep the line going for future generations. I know this ramble may not make sense, but it's all I got for right now. Even if Hasbro releasing toys brings down the value of exclusives, it's doing nothing more than showing us how stupid we are for spending the obscene amounts of money for these things.......

Seriouosly, this is the dumbest argument out there. We should not have to bend down to the make the lowest common denominator happy. Maybe Lamorghini should sell $16,000 cars so everyone can afford them?

by **HalfOfMe** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:09 pm

The big comic book publishers re-release classic issues. Owners of the much more valuable original prints don't get all teary-eyed about it. The originals, just like your exclusives, will always be more valuable, both monetarily AND as a sentimental commodity. The same can be said of G1 molds. I'm proud of my originals, but just as happy to replace the ones that got destroyed when I was was a kid with current re-releases. AKA: Get over it, repros are a fact of life!

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:11 pm

It Is Him wrote:
craggy wrote:
chrisc4 wrote:i cant remember for the life of me, is scourge the tracker? and is cyclonus the one with his armada?

Rumble was the one that turned into a casette.

Exactly, Wheelie is the one that rhymes.

And Blurr is the one that talks too fast!

by **HalfOfMe** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:11 pm

And as for the Lamborghini argument, actually, many manufacturers DO allow for the production of kit-cars, basically cheap repros of classic body-styles.

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:12 pm

HalfOfMe wrote:The big comic book publishers re-release classic issues. Owners of the much more valuable original prints don't get all teary-eyed about it. The originals, just like your exclusives, will always be more valuable, both monetarily AND as a sentimental commodity. The same can be said of G1 molds. I'm proud of my originals, but just as happy to replace the ones that got destroyed when I was was a kid with current re-releases. AKA: Get over it, repros are a fact of life!

I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with people saying there shouldn't be exclusives because some one might not be able to afford one or they are too hard to get, exclusives are a fun part of collecting.

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:14 pm

HalfOfMe wrote:And as for the Lamborghini argument, actually, many manufacturers DO allow for the production of kit-cars, basically cheap repros of classic body-styles.

They don't offer a cheap repro of a 570hp 12 cylinder engine now do they? There's also a different between a KO and mass producing an exclusive.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:16 pm

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:You gotta be **** kidding me... What's the point of buying a Botcon exclusive, a toy that's only made for a specific few, when it's just going to be released at retail 3 and a half years later? I hate this.

You still have your exclusive. Hasbro's not busting into your house to steal it.

Thats what they want you to think.