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Well Dealer looks like he will soon be appearing in the upcoming -tion books as well, thanks to the preview of Devastation #2, which makes me wonder if he will be (secretly) working in cahoots with Megatron and his crew, or will he be working for another "faction" of Decepticons against the Autobots and Megatron alike?

Really hoping that we get another twist on a character for the Blaster Spotlight, Punch/Counterpunch or Dealer would be a bit too easy to blame as a traitor. Especially seeing as Dealer is not known to be a Traitor in the current stories.

Furman has shown a knack for using Japanese Transformers in his story so it could be that double agent cassette Flipside, as she was a remake of the Rewind/Eject mold and he Tech Spec lists her as a Decepticon agent with her true personality buried under a shell program to make her and everyone around her think she's an Autobot.
Personally I'd think that a lot of people want to see Punch and I'd think he'd have a similar personality to his Hasbro/Dreamwave bio where he's an Autobot masquerading as a Decepticon and worrying that he's enjoying the part of a D-Con too much. Really i would hope he gets used in the story sometime soon.

clrobe wrote:
That's true...we don't know where Jhiaxus is at the present (or if he still lives). I wouldn't be surprised if most of Spotlight Arcee takes place in the past when Jhiaxus was doing his experiments on the Monsters and such. What if Arcee was an one of Jhiaxus' experiments (and the fembot prototype) and then something happened to him that prevented him from making more?

The only problem with that theory is that Megatron Origins has shown us that there are female-like Transformers already and that would contradict the idea that no more could be made. I'm thinking that the Arcee Spotlight takes place either in the present or sometime after the disappearance of the Ark-1 and that Jhiaxus wasn't on it, but went into hiding when Omega Supreme imprisoned the Pretender Monsters. If it is in the present, then Jhiaxus has an inside bot in the Autobot ranks and got Monstructor sent to protect him from Arcee.

Speaking of combiners, if you take a look at the team sent to help Omega and detain the Monsters, Technobots Strafe and Scattershot were part of said team, so it would be easy for the Technobots to get their hand on the information obtain from studying Monstructor and perfect it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hubcap as a traitor, to be honest.

On an entirely unrelated topic, Megatron #4 showed the fate of Senator Ratbat and why he became one of Soundwave's minions. (Minor spoiler, but you all already knew it was going to happen. One of my biggest curiosities upon seeing Ratbat as a senator, actually, was how he was going to become Soundwave's minion.)

It was handled rather abruptly, though. It got me thinking that I'd kind of like to see a Ratbat Spotlight to see him dealing with the memories of his double-cross and his loyalty to Soundwave and the Decepticons. It could make an interesting story and tie up that loose end and show a character transformation from Megatron #4 to Devastation #1.

I mean, come on. The guy went from being a Golden Age Cybertronian senator to being Soundwave's pet. There's got to be some unresolved conflict there.

Hitokiri Recca wrote:Speaking of combiners, if you take a look at the team sent to help Omega and detain the Monsters, Technobots Strafe and Scattershot were part of said team, so it would be easy for the Technobots to get their hand on the information obtain from studying Monstructor and perfect it.

Were they helping Omega or detaining him? I got the clear impression that Optimus was going to have Omega tried for war crimes.

Blozor wrote:It was handled rather abruptly, though. It got me thinking that I'd kind of like to see a Ratbat Spotlight to see him dealing with the memories of his double-cross and his loyalty to Soundwave and the Decepticons. It could make an interesting story and tie up that loose end and show a character transformation from Megatron #4 to Devastation #1.

I like this idea a lot.

Hitokiri Recca wrote:The only problem with that theory is that Megatron Origins has shown us that there are female-like Transformers already and that would contradict the idea that no more could be made...

True, very true. I tend to forget about that series altogether. Secretly, I'm wishing that Furman has already written something that contradict it so horribly that there will be no choice but to pretend it was a bad dream and not part of the Core Continuity. I'd rather that happen and then years down the road, Furman can tell his own origin stories (No offense to the people who enjoyed that series)

Blozor wrote:Were they helping Omega or detaining him? I got the clear impression that Optimus was going to have Omega tried for war crimes.

From the look of it, it's more than likely that they were taking Omega to be repaired, not detaining him. Besides Omega only imprisoned the Pretender Monsters so that they wouldn't cause any damage to Cybertron or other Cybertronians. Omega was only doing what he thought was right, keeping a dangerous tech out of the wrong hands, plus I got the feeling that if Sentinel Prime had heard of the combiner technology, then he would have used it to his advantage to protect Cybertron even if it is flawed, since he was more of a military commander than a true leader.
But in the end. it's a matter of a person's individual perceptions, and we won't know what's up until Furman decides to go back and explain things

clrobe wrote:True, very true. I tend to forget about that series altogether. Secretly, I'm wishing that Furman has already written something that contradict it so horribly that there will be no choice but to pretend it was a bad dream and not part of the Core Continuity. I'd rather that happen and then years down the road, Furman can tell his own origin stories (No offense to the people who enjoyed that series)

The only reason it was made was to explain how Megatron's legend began and it is part of IDW's universe, no matter how bad the series has come out. Besides Arcee was the only American G1 fembot to become important because she was in almost every episode of the original cartoon, until Blackarrachnia and Airrazor showed up in beast wars. Furman may include some of the other females from Japan and the G1 fembots somewhere in his plans at some point in the future. we just won't know the story behind the IDW fembots until Arcee's spotlight comes out

Hitokiri Recca wrote:

clrobe wrote:True, very true. I tend to forget about that series altogether. Secretly, I'm wishing that Furman has already written something that contradict it so horribly that there will be no choice but to pretend it was a bad dream and not part of the Core Continuity. I'd rather that happen and then years down the road, Furman can tell his own origin stories (No offense to the people who enjoyed that series)

The only reason it was made was to explain how Megatron's legend began and it is part of IDW's universe, no matter how bad the series has come out. Besides Arcee was the only American G1 fembot to become important because she was in almost every episode of the original cartoon, until Blackarrachnia and Airrazor showed up in beast wars. Furman may include some of the other females from Japan and the G1 fembots somewhere in his plans at some point in the future. we just won't know the story behind the IDW fembots until Arcee's spotlight comes out

almost every episode of season 3... perhaps

I have to admit, I'm greatly enjoying the Megatron's origin series. Of course I am also easy to please so I tend not to get very picky.

AxiomScion wrote: almost every episode of season 3... perhaps

I meant to put in that she was in almost every episode after the animated movie including all of season 4 and the majority of the important episodes of season 3 (the Return of Optimus Prime being the exception)

I've just re-read all my spotlights and some of the -ion issues and I've made a few (maybe incorrect) connections and assumptions and I'll detail as follows:

Spotlights -

Nightbeat:
He was on Gorlam Prime where there is evidence of the first Ark, a portal to the dead universe and evidence the population has been advanced artifically ala headmasters (a jump i know but it fits)

He has some device put into him by the emissary (Galvatron) that we suspect caused him to kill the facsimile in Escalation 6.


Galvatron:
He was on the Ark-1 and is working for Nova Prime who wants to expand cybertronian ideals to the whole galaxy..possibly conquest, and for whatever reason they need/want Thunderwing
There is a mech who looks like the Marvel Thunderwing on the Ark

Ultra Magnus:
He was after Scorponok who has a penchant for headmaster tech and is almost 100% the mech behind the machination on earth, he's been on nebulos as have a small party of decepticons. Nebulos was targeted by Thunderwing, the reasons were never made obvious.


Ion titles:
We suspect Nightbeat is being controlled by what purpose is this for, why does the dead universe crew want to stop the autobots getting one over on Megatrons bunch?

Everyone whose being focused on except Prime seems unaware of the dead universe goings on, so there may be the people in the shadows more involved.


My ultimate conclusion at this time is that for whatever reason Scorponok has had some involvement on Gorlam Prime and may be part of the plans of the dead universe albeit not intentionally.

If Thunderwing was on Ark 1 and somehow escaped and totally KO'd Cybertron on purpose and has a connection to Scorponok it would mean the expansion is what is happening on earth and the Dead universe crew want there puppet back and dont want either side of Megatron or Prime to get an upper hand until Scorponok is finished.

The end game seems to be recreating Cybertrons all over the galaxy similar to G2 and that could involve our old buddy the Liege Maximo...

Now i know all of the above is speculation, but every spotlight has such subtle links to the others i find it hard to dismiss them all as random. Thus far all the small links like Zarak and the Machination have all turned out to be part of a bigger thread and thus far the dead universe and its purposes eldudes us all.

If I've missed anything of gotten anything wrong please correct me.

Hitokiri Recca wrote:

waaaaghlord wrote:What we know is that the Ark 1 disappeared into the Dead Universe prior to the Autobot/Decpticon war during Cybertron's Golden Age, taking Nova Prime (and so presumably the Matrix), Galvatron and an unknown number of other crew members with it.

I've just started reading this thread tonight, and it had me going back and looking over what was said. The thing I wanted to point out was in the Stormbringer comics, in the flashbacks Prime was having in particular, there was one scene where he had damage to his chest and you could see the shine of the Matrix in the damaged section. It makes me wonder if Simon took the idea of the Convoy Council from Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo where there are multiple Matrices and they gave them to those that were deemed worthy or if Nova Prime was forced by someone/ the Cybertronian Governing body to leave it behind so that they could pass it on to Sentinel Prime in case Nova didn't return.

As Leonardo said earlier the official line from IDW is that Optimus doesn't have the Matrix although this has yet to be confirmed 'in story'. The glow eminating from Prime's chest in Stormbringer I put down to his spark chamber being breached. From the fight at the end of Escalation (and notably Megatron's dialogue) we can physically place Prime's spark chamber as being located within his chest.

skyshadowprimus wrote:The end game seems to be recreating Cybertrons all over the galaxy similar to G2 and that could involve our old buddy the Liege Maximo...

Whose to say that Nova has not been turned into a Liege Maximo style character?

I personally do not think that Scorponok has any ties to the Dead Universe, but who knows, he may have been "influenced" like Nightbeat has.

I think the reason that Galvatron's "boss" wants the Con's to ahve the advantage on Earth is purely for Ore 13. With it they can repower Thunderwing easily, and he has already proven himself to be quite the powerful weapon.

Thunderwing vs. Sixshot anyone?

i_amtrunks wrote:

skyshadowprimus wrote:The end game seems to be recreating Cybertrons all over the galaxy similar to G2 and that could involve our old buddy the Liege Maximo...

Whose to say that Nova has not been turned into a Liege Maximo style character?

I personally do not think that Scorponok has any ties to the Dead Universe, but who knows, he may have been "influenced" like Nightbeat has.

Yeah this thought had crossed my mind as well as the dialogue about the dead universe being a mirror of own universe tipped me off. Scorponok being "influenced" like nightbeat seems fair as I can't shake the feeling he is way more connected than everyone thinks at the moment, why earth, why now???

i_amtrunks wrote:Thunderwing vs. Sixshot anyone?

I certainly hope so....

So we now know some more info on Arcee, she goes up against Magnus, and gets tossed in prison.

Magnus is a proper bad ass this time around!

And Ramjet seems to trust Skywarp some, seeing as he is telling him of his plans to overthrow Megatron.

With Astrotrain and Blitzwing going against Megatron, and Skywarp (I am assuming here) not warning Megatron of Ramjet's dealings, perhaps there is absolutely no loyalty to Megatron as a leader of the Decepticons in the IDW-verse?

I noticed this in the Transformers-New Avengers comics about Ramjet. When the hell did he decide to become the conehead Starscream?

The Ramjet I remember was basically a jet who wanted to ram things, which seemed like he had the wrong alt mode to me.

So Ramjet has added nothing to the IDW Furmanverse right?

Wrong.

Humans (other than the Machination, and Skywatch) now have giant Machine parts. (Why would Megatron drop them off there? I know he no longer seems to care about remaining hidden, but it seems quite odd), there is a Transformers locator, and some mini-Constructicons...

Not to mention Megatron now possess Ramjet's Spark, to use as he sees fit.

Why did Megatron leave Ramjet's parts all over the place?

Leonardo wrote:Why did Megatron leave Ramjet's parts all over the place?

Your guess is as good as anyone else's. I'm sure it will come into play down the track (probably to Megatron's detriment)

If you walked out of work one day and saw a giant robot leg in the car park, what do you think your reaction would be?

I can't really see any benefit of leaving robot parts dotted around. Even though Megatron's clearly not bothered about phases or disguise anymore, it seems an odd thing to do. Why give the human race even the opportunity to study Cybertronian tech? I wonder if Moore actually had a reason for doing it, and if Furman will take it further.

Nothing ever happens in TF (especially this storyline) without having some upcoming plot tie in.

I suspect it was a random choice by megatron based on Ramjets plans was involving all of these places so what could be more fitting than scattering his remains at the site of his plans.

I've got no doubt this will come back to bite him the butt as Skywatch and the Machination will want them, maybe that is Megatron's plan though? He leaves parts of Ramjet about and see's who comes to pick them up to track down any rougue elements on the planet.

One interesting point was the fact Ramjet full page plans spread featured soundwave along with Runabout etc. Does anyone else think that Soundwave is up and about and we have yet to see this or maybe that Ramjet knows the location of Soundwave??

Seems strange Ramjet would have a vision of the future that involved a transformer who has been missing for 20 years???