Galactic Prime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Is there any point in giving you an example since you have already made up your mind? It would be like someone trying to tell me the virtues of the dreamwave series, wouldnt matter a dot, it is inferior in every way.
You didn't type that with a straight face did you? Because the Dreamwave stuff was leagues better in every way, especially art.
But yes, an example of what someone liked would be nice, that is the point of a discussion thread. Instead all you hear is, THIS IS GREAT, when it simply isn't.
ZeroWolf wrote:Instead why do you feel the characters have to act as certain way? New continuities in transformers is nothing new, and that's what idw is, a new continuity. It never pretended to be a replacement for the g1 toon and comic, they are still there. If you don't like it fine, but there are those of us who aren't going in to idw expecting it to tread old ground that's already well worn. What would be the point? Seeing megatron be more evil? Seen it. A thousand times seen it. Megatron struggling with his conscience? That's new, gimme more of that. Let the characters go beyond their bios, let them grow and develop. Let them question their alligances, commitment to their cause. Worse comes to worse you don't have to support them, but at least agree to disagree with those that do support them.
What deems the characters to act a certain way? How about if they don't want people to expect them to act like their G1 incarnations then you don't draw them like them.
That's why. The characters have very unique personalities in G1 that make them very interesting, moreso than what they've done with them in IDW. Everyone acts the same in these books, they're all back stabbing betraying murderous asshats.
The only interesting characters they've had they kill off or hardly use.
the art was better huh?
also i hate to break it to you but the characters in G1 have several different personalities depending on your fiction.
in the cartoon Prowl was a soldier and all around good guy. In the marvel he was sometimes cold and logical and did everything based on number, his toy bio reflected that. IDW based prowl off his toy and marvel bio.
Shockwave was originally depicted as a cold being who only believed in logic. Marvel IDW even somewhat of DW did it, cartoon? hes megatrons butler.
Soundwave in the cartoon is Megatrons most loyal soldier. in marvel comics and toy hes depicted as someone whos always listening to dig up dirt and blackmail anyone to benefit himself. IDW merged all the charcteristics.
Grimlock. Cartoon he and the dinobots are idiots and are nothing but muscle to the autobots and by season three were borderline mentally challanged and comic relief. EVERY other depiction has then being bad boys that are actually smart, ruthless tough guys who break rules once in a while becuase they dont agree with orders.
i hate to break it to you but IDW for the most part has been more faithful to characters than most fiction. the Cartoon ignored most of their characters backgrounds that were all created by Bob Budianski unless they got an individual episode about them but immediately after were forgotten.
but lets also go back to better art shall we?
squat post where limbs are not actually attached to the bodies
squat pose
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1_Vol.1_Issue2_1.jpgsquat pose bumblebees feet are bigger than his body. also whats going on with cliffjumpers feet behid bee? they literally floating infront of his body
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/7/77/G1_Vol.1_Issue3_1.jpgsquat pose again just look at Bumblebee. jesus...and look at prime. what is even going on here?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1_Vol.2_Issue1_1.jpglets take a look at this piece of interior by supposedly the president and founder of Dreamwave Pat lee. i say supposedly because its Pat Lee and he was having artists draw the comics and putting name on the books.
Optimus has three tires on one side and 2 on another and theyre not even located where tires on a truck would be.
Yup? much superior art from 16 years ago than what we get now.