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IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:07 am

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Chromia and Ironhide make the Cybertron stories. They're an awesome pair and I am ready for this thing to start :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby dragons » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:07 pm

Good looking I expected to see this in transformers sequel with new director as was shown in batman and robin and batman forever with batnipples what is star scream having POINTY NIPPLES? On cover
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:09 pm

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dragons wrote:Good looking I expected to see this in transformers sequel with new director as was shown in batman and robin and batman forever with batnipples what is star scream having POINTY NIPPLES? On cover

It's Alex Milne, he loves to add flares like that to designs. He has peck turbines, so he added an extra long turbine tip....though I hadn't noticed that until you said it and how i can't unsee it :MAXIMAL:
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IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #1 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:51 am

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The second preview from IDW Publishing, also via exclusiver-than-thou Newsarama, is for the very first issue of the new Mairghread Scott Transformers ongoing - with art by Sara Pitre Durocher: Till All Are One! Elita! Starscream! Combaticons! Ironhide and Chromia! Ghost Bumblebee! And does Swindle live..?

Transformers: Till All Are One #1
Mairghread Scott (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a & c)
PEACE IN OUR TIME! STARSCREAM and WINDBLADE have given everything to bring together CYBERTRON’s Lost Colonies into a Council Of Worlds. But when the increasingly brutal tactics of STARSCREAM’s secret police increase tension among the former DECEPTICONS… how long can the Council maintain this fragile peace?
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

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As OPTIMUS PRIME conquers Earth and the Lost Light explores space, life on CYBERTRON heats up!
Fan-favorite superstars Mairghread Scott (Windblade, Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy television show) and Sara Pitre-Durocher (Combiner Hunters, Transformers) reunite!
WINDBLADE variant cover by Sara Pitre-Durocher!
WINDBLADE variant cover by Alex Milne!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:19 am

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Looking good and getting a nice political drama vibe
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Rainmaker » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:23 am

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OMG! The giant prime is back!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:53 am

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[BW] Rainmaker wrote:OMG! The giant prime is back!


:MAXIMAL:


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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:03 am

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Dr Va'al wrote:
[BW] Rainmaker wrote:OMG! The giant prime is back!


:MAXIMAL:


:???:

I think they're talking about the exclusive Montreal cover that homages marvel issue 1#
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:48 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
[BW] Rainmaker wrote:OMG! The giant prime is back!


:MAXIMAL:


:???:

I think they're talking about the exclusive Montreal cover that homages marvel issue 1#


OOOH!

Yes, that makes sense. :D
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:04 am

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I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:18 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all



It's also an Ironhide that missed 4 million years of war. His memories span what? Primacy maybe and that's it? It makes total sense that Ironhide would be doing this due to him being probably the most innocent minded autobot now.

I always thought more would come out of that. Always expected a scene in chaos theory showing him seeing his own corpse or him regaining the memories of the original ironhide from when Cybertron rebooted somehow.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:29 am

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Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all

It's also an Ironhide that missed 4 million years of war. His memories span what? Primacy maybe and that's it? It makes total sense that Ironhide would be doing this due to him being probably the most innocent minded autobot now.

I always thought more would come out of that. Always expected a scene in chaos theory showing him seeing his own corpse or him regaining the memories of the original ironhide from when Cybertron rebooted somehow.

They did bring a little bit of attention to it in combiner wars and how he wants to remember and needs to remember what he did.

But at the same time it is good to see Ironhide, "innocent" as he may be, doing some good while still doing something we could all see Ironhide doing. Plus, since he does not have those memories, or at least doesn't remember them yet, he sees better in people while still being a bit gruff and a bit physical, which is important for his character and makes him both a war hero and a leader of trying to make good peace
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:15 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all

It's also an Ironhide that missed 4 million years of war. His memories span what? Primacy maybe and that's it? It makes total sense that Ironhide would be doing this due to him being probably the most innocent minded autobot now.

I always thought more would come out of that. Always expected a scene in chaos theory showing him seeing his own corpse or him regaining the memories of the original ironhide from when Cybertron rebooted somehow.

They did bring a little bit of attention to it in combiner wars and how he wants to remember and needs to remember what he did.

But at the same time it is good to see Ironhide, "innocent" as he may be, doing some good while still doing something we could all see Ironhide doing. Plus, since he does not have those memories, or at least doesn't remember them yet, he sees better in people while still being a bit gruff and a bit physical, which is important for his character and makes him both a war hero and a leader of trying to make good peace


Utterly. Remember how he treated Drift in AHM. He was awful to him and then we saw him saving Drift during Chaos. He's honestly a character id rather have on Earth due to his relationship with Optimus and alpha Trion. Those two still haven't met back up since the Ironhide mini.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:26 am

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Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all

It's also an Ironhide that missed 4 million years of war. His memories span what? Primacy maybe and that's it? It makes total sense that Ironhide would be doing this due to him being probably the most innocent minded autobot now.

I always thought more would come out of that. Always expected a scene in chaos theory showing him seeing his own corpse or him regaining the memories of the original ironhide from when Cybertron rebooted somehow.

They did bring a little bit of attention to it in combiner wars and how he wants to remember and needs to remember what he did.

But at the same time it is good to see Ironhide, "innocent" as he may be, doing some good while still doing something we could all see Ironhide doing. Plus, since he does not have those memories, or at least doesn't remember them yet, he sees better in people while still being a bit gruff and a bit physical, which is important for his character and makes him both a war hero and a leader of trying to make good peace


Utterly. Remember how he treated Drift in AHM. He was awful to him and then we saw him saving Drift during Chaos. He's honestly a character id rather have on Earth due to his relationship with Optimus and alpha Trion. Those two still haven't met back up since the Ironhide mini.

Very true. Then again, for Alpha trion's sake it may be best he's a star in TAAO. He might punch Trion again, and there is no Metroplex to save his this time.

Plus, it is strange to see him not be there. You would think he would want to go with Optimus. but then again, he didn't go with him back to Earth originally anyway
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:50 am

Ironhide would never hire Decepticons. The Ironhide mini where he was transplanted into a KO body by Jack Sparrow was one of the dumbest rebirths ever.

I want my Ironhide old, angry, resistant to change and attached to Prime's bumper.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:41 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'd like to call attention to 2 things in this preview that I like:

1) Ironhide is now running a security firm that employs people regardless of planet or faction, and he uses them to protect people regardless of planet or faction. This is a post-war Ironhide folks, and I like him.

2) I like seeing Prime Knockout, Obsidian, Rattrap, Windblade, Starscream, etc. in the same proceedings. So much awesome continuity crossing that is not continuity crossing at all

It's also an Ironhide that missed 4 million years of war. His memories span what? Primacy maybe and that's it? It makes total sense that Ironhide would be doing this due to him being probably the most innocent minded autobot now.

I always thought more would come out of that. Always expected a scene in chaos theory showing him seeing his own corpse or him regaining the memories of the original ironhide from when Cybertron rebooted somehow.

They did bring a little bit of attention to it in combiner wars and how he wants to remember and needs to remember what he did.

But at the same time it is good to see Ironhide, "innocent" as he may be, doing some good while still doing something we could all see Ironhide doing. Plus, since he does not have those memories, or at least doesn't remember them yet, he sees better in people while still being a bit gruff and a bit physical, which is important for his character and makes him both a war hero and a leader of trying to make good peace


Utterly. Remember how he treated Drift in AHM. He was awful to him and then we saw him saving Drift during Chaos. He's honestly a character id rather have on Earth due to his relationship with Optimus and alpha Trion. Those two still haven't met back up since the Ironhide mini.

Very true. Then again, for Alpha trion's sake it may be best he's a star in TAAO. He might punch Trion again, and there is no Metroplex to save his this time.

Plus, it is strange to see him not be there. You would think he would want to go with Optimus. but then again, he didn't go with him back to Earth originally anyway


Well he did find earth to be kind of stinky :lol:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:37 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:42 pm

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I wouldn't mind seeing all three of those as Generations toys tbh. Especially since the Knock Out and Cheetor molds never got to be good and Airazor is sorely in need of an update.

That aside this is sexy, but there's something a little off about Tigatron's head I can't quite place...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:47 pm

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Sara has this thing for Knock out, and I think she showed it perfectly right there. And I can't blame her, I loved him in Prime
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IDW Transformers: Till All Are One #1 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:04 am

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(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
PEACE IN OUR TIME! STARSCREAM and WINDBLADE have given everything to bring together CYBERTRON’s Lost Colonies into a Council Of Worlds. But when the increasingly brutal tactics of STARSCREAM’s secret police increase tension among the former DECEPTICONS… how long can the Council maintain this fragile peace?

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By sitting in circles!


Story

We've seen the actions and influence that Windblade, as a character, has brought to the Transformers universe in recent years, from her introduction in Dark Cybertron, the first story arc in the mini, the creation of the Council of Worlds in the second - let's get back to where it started, then and see what the new Starscream-led Cybertron is up to.

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Um...


Ironhide, actually, is the character getting the most page-time in this first issue, and a fitting choice it is: he's been a constant in the IDW verse, and he's gone through a lot of weird things, and as we know, is now at times a little lost in this new, wider world. Mairghread Scott uses Ironhide's almost neutral status as the pivot for a lot of the story, though sometimes misses his voice, as if unsure what he should be sounding like - which may, saying that now, be intentional given the above.

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Mellow banter


One of the points I'd question concerns the Combaticon crew, Brawl in particular - whom we've seen up until recent as being a big player for the new Decepticons (both Soundwave and Galvatron's sides), and is now suddenly not really doing much. But with the team being so crucial to the story, there may be more for him to shine again.

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SWINDLllgfgdfmmfm


Windblade is prominent, of course, though not more than necessary, as the streets of Iacon and their inhabitants are really what's at the fore. The Badgeless, the ex-factions, the factionless, the newcomers from the ex-colonies - something is bound to happen, and something does, and Starscream may or may not know what is what, and who is where. And we get a reference to the big unsolved Chromia moment from the first trade, as a result, too.

Art

Sara Pitre Durocher is on the full art duties for the book (except for Revolution) and we ok - it's phenomenal work. Moving between body language, panel layouts, facial expressions, we get a very unsure Ironhide, a determined Windblade, a nasty Starscream and a truly ominous Obsidian. Each character has their own demeanour again, which is just. great.

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Variations on a theme of 'I want to murderkill you'


Priscilla Tramontano comes in with the mastery of colours, perfectly in sync with the linework, and playing wonderfully with tone and lighting, giving different hues and shades to the different locations. They're crisp, they're clean, they're clear, they're wonderfully appropriate. And the glow of the various optics - especially the Badgeless visors - is just great.

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And we get some great backgrounds, too


This is probably the first time I will say something negative about the lettering, once more by Tom B. Long: the order of some of the dialogues seems a little off on certain pages (e.g. the first Council session), which through me a little. That said, the rest of the work is its usual excellency! Let's look at the covers, then - not only is Pitre Durocher's main cast piece lusciously triumphant, we also have the more tone-appropriate Tramontano Batman Ironhide one, and Teyowisonte Thomas Deer bring his skills to another Pitre Durocher Metroplex/Windblade (thumbnail); plus, more exclusives from Alex Milne and Josh Perez than you can shake a piston at!


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Scott has always had a penchant for the more horrorific storylines, and the start to this new chapter is nothing different: yes, it's a political crime thriller, touching on authoritarian brutality, perceptions of differences and discrimination, the turmoils of an increasingly populated planet - but we're going to chop people's heads on the way too. It's a hook, and it got me.

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There, tied in


Pair that, and the rising tension between all the major players, with some excellent art - both in composition and in expression - from Pitre Durocher, and of course Tramontano's colours, and you have a very strong start to a new Cybertronian chapter, and one that I am extremely intrigued and invested in already. Just look at my signature on here. Someone lives.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:51 am

This was a decent issue. Does a lot of good set up I'm hoping it keeps this way. Scott's first and second issues always stand out well but it always starts selling flat once it goes on. Hopefully with this being an ongoing that won't happen.

I liked blastoff, the one combaticon who has had no character at all in IDW, is getting so much attention. Once I saw the slingshot head I instantly thought "well there's going to be a lot of moaning about that" only for him to activate his mouth plate. That gave me a chuckle.

Glad to see this is not Windblade's book(for now). Honestly I'm just so burned out by her at the moment it's great to see so many other character shine. It really feels like the first dozen issues of RID ongoing. The politics is something I have missed a lot. Also nice to see obsidian for once is not a bunch of shapes that is just just colored solid blue. He actually looks great. Still wish he was a more greener blue to break up some of him though.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:58 am

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Randomhero wrote:I liked blastoff, the one combaticon who has had no character at all in IDW, is getting so much attention. Once I saw the slingshot head I instantly thought "well there's going to be a lot of moaning about that" only for him to activate his mouth plate. That gave me a chuckle.


YES. That was a good little moment to address the issue - or maybe poke fun at it. I chuckled too.

Glad to see this is not Windblade's book(for now). Honestly I'm just so burned out by her at the moment it's great to see so many other character shine. It really feels like the first dozen issues of RID ongoing. The politics is something I have missed a lot.


While we knew this was going to be the case, and I'm not tired of the character myself, I do agree with you that it's nice to see the wider world around the post-colony situation. Even the nameless characters in the various scenes get a chance to shine (for better or worse as the case may be), and it speaks to the size of scope that the books will have to play with. Let's hope for good things!

Also nice to see obsidian for once is not a bunch of shapes that is just just colored solid blue. He actually looks great. Still wish he was a more greener blue to break up some of him though.


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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:12 am

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Besides my Brawl concerns, this was a great start!

I like Ironhide's new role in the world and it is good to see him get the attention he deserves. He's been in need of some more screen time seeing as how he has been a lighter used character since season 1 of RiD ended, and throwing him into the middle of the badgeless is a good idea.

I love Knockout OK? He is awesome and he is drawn awesome. But, Obsidian definitely rules this book with regards to the council so far. He is a figurehead, a floating one at that, and the fact that he comes from a colony whose very titan is still up for questioning considering who it is and why it isn't someone else makes me excited. I want to see how he goes through this. He has potential to be a big story character. And, as Va'al said, He's a bit intimidating
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:28 am

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Randomhero wrote:I liked blastoff, the one combaticon who has had no character at all in IDW, is getting so much attention. Once I saw the slingshot head I instantly thought "well there's going to be a lot of moaning about that" only for him to activate his mouth plate. That gave me a chuckle.


YES. That was a good little moment to address the issue - or maybe poke fun at it. I chuckled too.

Glad to see this is not Windblade's book(for now). Honestly I'm just so burned out by her at the moment it's great to see so many other character shine. It really feels like the first dozen issues of RID ongoing. The politics is something I have missed a lot.


While we knew this was going to be the case, and I'm not tired of the character myself, I do agree with you that it's nice to see the wider world around the post-colony situation. Even the nameless characters in the various scenes get a chance to shine (for better or worse as the case may be), and it speaks to the size of scope that the books will have to play with. Let's hope for good things!

Also nice to see obsidian for once is not a bunch o
f shapes that is just just colored solid blue. He actually looks great. Still wish he was a more greener blue to break up some of him though.


He a scary moddafodder.


She's just someone I'm tired of being told how amazing she is and her title of "fan favorite" when I've yet to see her do anything amazing other than not like starscream. She did nothing in her debut in Dark Cybetron, I wasnt thrilled with how she was handled in her own series and her contribution in Combiner Wars was 'stand there and give a line here and there and remind us you don't like starscream'. Remember how everyone felt that Drift was being choked down their throats 8 years ago? That's honestly how I feel with Windblade

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:55 am

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Yeah, I don't really get the Windblade love either. Nautica, in the other hand, is vastly underused.
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