Randomhero wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Im still wondering what the breadcrumbs are, especially for the original ultra magnus.
I already said them all on the first page. Go read them because I am no typing all that a second time. lol
Okay, let's Break it Down Again (like vos's favorite band) this one's the biggie, so i'll start with this one.
Randomhero wrote:Tarn knows about the Magnus Armor. In slaughter house, tarn goes out of his way to remove Magnus' hand so the recall switch would not be activated upon Minimus' death. Only someone who knew about the Magnus armor would do that, and we know that in the flashback with Brainstorm he would never leak information that could legitimately harm an Autobot so if Braintstorm did know about the switch, he wouldn't have told anyone because that would jeopardize minus' life.
On surface value, this seems plausible. However the Ultra Magnus you reference is the Original Ultra Magnus, not the first load bearer to be Ultra Magnus, postmortem. As far as the comics have hinted, it hasn't been disclosed if the Original Ultra Magnus was a person in armor. However, if the original Ultra Magnus was in fact a man in armor, or even if he wasn't, he would have no knowledge of the workings of the Tyrest Magnus Armor Minimus Ambus wears. This Armor, even if made from or based on the original Magnus armor, is a different set created after the original magnus's death, made specifically for recall. Thus it is unlikely that if the original Ultra Magnus was Tarn, he would know about the panic button in the wrist, as that would be something added to this new set of Magnus Armor, created after the originals' supposed death. Continuing this, the Original Ultra Magnus would not know exactly if the New Ultra Magnus was a load bearer in a suit, even if he was one himself. Because of this, it would seem no matter who killed Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus in the Slaughterhouse arc, they would have to have had a 3rd party source outside of Brainstorm to inform them.
Randomhero wrote:Ambus does take on the characteristics and even improves on them. We've seen through flashbacks that the previous Magnus bearers had ticks and Ambus having OCD has improved in them. Previous Magnus wearers have been shown to be dirty, reckless over charismatic , and wear crooked badges. Things Ambus removed and improved on when taking the mantle. Also, like I said Minimus has OCD so he would take on the characteristics of the person he's trying to become Magnus and be the best. That's why the only people who knew about the armor were not people who figured it out big people who were informed.
I personally doubt the love of the Empeream Suite between the Magni (The Original and Minimus) is anything but a coincidence. If Minumus Ambus was OCD enough to display the traits of the original Ultra Magnus, in order not to raise suspicion (provided the Original Ultra Magnus and tarn are the same) he would show some addictive traits, an intricate knowledge and/or respect of Towards Peace, as well as actual outlier abilities, or abilities mimicking them. Tarn is hinted to be an outlier, therefore the Original Ultra Magnus would have to be one too.
Randomhero wrote:A flashback of tarn shows him being rebuilt by bots similar to the ones that performed shadowplay on Shockwave. It's possible that with the reputation the original Magnus has, Megatron wanted him for the Decepticons or he saw Megatron's way was the right way.
The Flashback shows the delicate operation on Tarn with the (post) institute surgeons present. However, shadowplay and Mnemosurgery no matter how minor or extensive, would have gone against the decepticon beliefs of that time, especially Megatron's, who despises Mnemosurgery. It's most likely the surgeons were present for the extensive body modification on whoever Tarn was, these specific surgeons worked on bodies as much as they did the mind.
