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News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:12 pm

I'm curious if Brainstorm has a plan and that's why he time travelled to that particular place or if it was random.

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:19 pm

Well, regarding Brainstorm, in 33 it's presumed that he was the one on the "alternate" Lost Light to have sprung the lock on Overlord so that the DJD would show up. In the current, "real" timeline, or whatever you want to call it, Brainstorm is the guy that gave Chromedome the codes to get to Overlord. Perhaps the intention was the same, only Chromedome fails to stall Overlord long enough to be detected in this timeline and not the other, so the DJD never shows up. Or, Swerve's metafictional bomb prevents him from calling the DJD when he intended to.

So anyway, we have no idea where Overlord ended up, but surely a fall to a planet won't off him. Brainstorm may be attempting in this issue to get to that planet in an effort to lead the DJD to him. Why he then shows up in the past, I'm not sure, but it may have something to do with wanting to retrieve Megatron from that time to "replace" the Autobot Megatron they're dealing with? Or maybe it's to retrieve him to satisfy a potential revenge plot of the DJD/Overlord who would both have beef with Megatron at that point, and he wants some other copy from the past to take the fall?

Of course there's other stuff that could mess this all up too. Brainstorm's been in cahoots with Prowl the entire time so far, and Prowl certainly has some darker tendencies lately. Not to mention Brainstorm's involvements with Ironfist in the past and Prowl trying to play keep away with the Aquetas data he had - maybe Brainstorm's research into the cerebro shells was held back on purpose? He's also got a .01%er spark sitting around in his lab, has an odd relationship with the Dead Universe and Nova Prime, and who knows if the MCP is real or not yet. Any of these things could come into play.

Anyway, that's probably -all- wrong, and a lot of speculation. Either way, his plot has got to be coming to a head soon. I look forward to seeing where it goes.

by **Gekas** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:03 pm

Based off Kaon saying "See you soon", I think the DJD will show up with Brainstorm, and his prize from the past, Megatron. Some of you guys mentioned this earlier as well, but I doubt the outcome will be what Brainstorm wants. They will encounter current Megatron eventually, and he would no doubt convince his younger self about the errors of the past. This could mean that Brainstorm is giving Megatron tech from the future for his war or some sort of advice. In the end Brainstorm might not be a spy at all, just someone who changed sides during the start of the war. Then again it was on the inside of his face plate so who knows.

Also confused at the end, did Kaon take off with Trailcutter's head and brain?

I'm sure next issue will bring about more questions than it will answer for the past 2 issues.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:57 am

Okay, please don't think me crazy (okay, I am crazy but this is going to come off as pretty 'duuuuh') is this issue out?

I can't find it on Amazon (Kindle) which is where I get my comics. It's driving me nuts!
Thankfully I live two blocks from a comics store and have no issues buying the paper copy, I just like having the digital so I can read it anywhere (and it doesn't get shredded/drawn in by the kids)

Edit: Never mind... I did some digging and found out my yes. Apparently Amazon is not selling it, which makes me all twitchy. Sometimes I just want to send the DJD their way <-- bad TF joke!

Off to the comics store!

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:01 am

^ Glad you got it sorted out! I think the Kindle editions take a while to go up for some reason. May be due to some deal with Comixology, but I have 0 facts to back that up.

And John Stamoist (excellent screen name, btw), That also makes a lot of sense. Something else I've thought of after sleeping on it - Brainstorm could be Agent 113? Could have been the mole within the DJD mentioned way back in LSotW? Or they could go full blown headmaster idea and say that Brainstorm is dead and that's actually Vos - only going with that due to the faceplates seeming to be analogous at least somewhat, but that could also be a good ol' JR red herring.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:45 am

I'd never had a problem with Kindle before... no biggie, I'll just switch to Comixology (well, I did, never made it out due to a 4 year old with an aversion to wearing pants. He will only wear shorts... because he wants to see his knees. When it's 45 degrees out, I kind of insist on pants)
So now I read it... and ... wow... I'm still processing.

News Credits: 645 · by **ScottyP** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:03 am

ctrlFrequency wrote:So now I read it... and ... wow... I'm still processing.

Podcast staff gets review copies, so I first read it Friday, and then stewed on it entirely until reading my print copy that I bought yesterday. It took some time to process, but in the end, I really, really like it. Wonderful storytelling.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:24 am

Oh I agree completely, that is fantastic storytelling. MtMtE has had some of the best storytelling in it. Especially lately (to me it feels like they have narrowed it down a bit, not trying to pack too many characters in, but giving many characters a chance, we haven't seen old Rodimus in awhile, mentioned, but not seen. It seems like they want a good focus. Give more time to each character to make them not be forgettable in their roles).

I'm still processing on the wow factor. The last RiD left me wanting, this one left me intrigued. Not to say the last RiD was bad, just that there's a spot in every story where you need to sit back and get some non action stuff dealt with so you can have those deep plots and intricate stories.

The Vos thing didn't surprise me. The Rung part did. Megatron's writings left me applauding because of it's relevance to many current, real life issues plaguing Western Society, womens's rights, lgbtq rights, and social casts that have become increasingly more prevalent lately. They handled with so much grace issues that are a hot point in our media right now.

I'm going to have to go back and read it again to catch more detail, but that's just what popped up right away. I liked what they did with TrailCutter too. His journey to sobriety got a bit lost for awhile, it was nice to see him deal with it.

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:45 am

ScottyP wrote:^
And John Stamoist (excellent screen name, btw), That also makes a lot of sense. Something else I've thought of after sleeping on it - Brainstorm could be Agent 113? Could have been the mole within the DJD mentioned way back in LSotW? Or they could go full blown headmaster idea and say that Brainstorm is dead and that's actually Vos - only going with that due to the faceplates seeming to be analogous at least somewhat, but that could also be a good ol' JR red herring.

Good point, never considered the Headmaster scenario. It just feels a bit random that Brainstorm decided to time travel to the past after all the disappearances. If he is the traitor, it wouldn't make sense for the DJD to execute him after he just gave them Overload, a high value target they had been looking for a good amount of time. Brainstorm has had many opportunities to become a traitor in the middles of battles and wars, why choose now to go active even with Overload no longer on the ship? Also I forgot to mention this in the thread for last isssue, but isn't it just a bit sad/pathetic that the DJD, 5 Decepticons, massacred the whole Lost Light who had at least 20+ crew on board...............

Thanks for the compliment my good sir, I'm surprised though, oddly you're the only one who likes it so far hahahaha.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:29 pm

For the record, I never said I dislike the name John Stamoist, I just didn't actually SAY I like it. As a matter of fact, I do.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:26 pm

John Stamoist wrote:Also confused at the end, did Kaon take off with Trailcutter's head and brain?

I'm sure next issue will bring about more questions than it will answer for the past 2 issues.

I reread now, and missed where you asked this, so I'm going to weigh in on that.
I wondered too. They totally left that up in the air. In the last panel of that scene you can see First Aid, Bluestreak, and Mainframe looking down at the floor inside TC's bubble. Kaon also doesn't appear to be holding anything when he's dissolving as Helix ports him out. But of course he's washed out. He could very well be holding TC's head and brain, but he might not be. Obviously it is meant to not be obvious one way or another for cliffhanger purposes. I'm inclined to think he did leave it (though why he would is odd) since the other three are looking on the floor... but.. who knows.

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:00 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:For the record, I never said I dislike the name John Stamoist, I just didn't actually SAY I like it. As a matter of fact, I do.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.

Why thank you sir, Stamoist will make sure you are taken care of for the rest of your life

ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:Also confused at the end, did Kaon take off with Trailcutter's head and brain?

I'm sure next issue will bring about more questions than it will answer for the past 2 issues.

I reread now, and missed where you asked this, so I'm going to weigh in on that.
I wondered too. They totally left that up in the air. In the last panel of that scene you can see First Aid, Bluestreak, and Mainframe looking down at the floor inside TC's bubble. Kaon also doesn't appear to be holding anything when he's dissolving as Helix ports him out. But of course he's washed out. He could very well be holding TC's head and brain, but he might not be. Obviously it is meant to not be obvious one way or another for cliffhanger purposes. I'm inclined to think he did leave it (though why he would is odd) since the other three are looking on the floor... but.. who knows.

Yeah the whole scenario was weird. The first weird thing was that he engaged with Red Alert when he asked him to spare his brain. From the few issues the DJD have been in, and from what I can tell, they are merciless blood thirsty killers. So if they are as insane and bloodthirsty as they've been portrayed, Kaon should have destroyed the brain on the spot and laugh. So I thought, Kaon might just want to mess with him, then destroy the brain in front of him, OR he would spare TC due to the fact that he was the one who brought Vos back from the brink of death. So when he said one moment and pressed the brain against the field, I really thought he was going to look at the datapad to confirm that Megatron called off the war. It's obvious Kaon wants to come down and interact with them again, whether it's to talk about the war, to kill them or to gloat about how they have a spy amongst them. I would say to thank them for saving Vos, but we all know that won't happen.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:52 pm

John Stamoist wrote:
Yeah the whole scenario was weird. The first weird thing was that he engaged with Red Alert when he asked him to spare his brain. From the few issues the DJD have been in, and from what I can tell, they are merciless blood thirsty killers. So if they are as insane and bloodthirsty as they've been portrayed, Kaon should have destroyed the brain on the spot and laugh. So I thought, Kaon might just want to mess with him, then destroy the brain in front of him, OR he would spare TC due to the fact that he was the one who brought Vos back from the brink of death. So when he said one moment and pressed the brain against the field, I really thought he was going to look at the datapad to confirm that Megatron called off the war. It's obvious Kaon wants to come down and interact with them again, whether it's to talk about the war, to kill them or to gloat about how they have a spy amongst them. I would say to thank them for saving Vos, but we all know that won't happen.

Yeah, the whole situation was just uncharacteristic for Kaon. I was sure he was going to do something downright brutal and didn't do it. However it popped into my head earlier that maybe TC told him how long it would take before the force field dropped so maybe he did leave his head and brain so the three others could stand helplessly by and watch him die without being able to help and then come back for the rest and kill them.
Heck, maybe he's checking out the 'war is over' news... or maybe Helix said something like 'I think I see Megatron up here!' It's so hard to speculate on MtMe.

Looking at this posted it looks like some big huge secret code with the spoiler hI glint :p

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:04 pm

ctrlFrequency wrote:Yeah, the whole situation was just uncharacteristic for Kaon. I was sure he was going to do something downright brutal and didn't do it. However it popped into my head earlier that maybe TC told him how long it would take before the force field dropped so maybe he did leave his head and brain so the three others could stand helplessly by and watch him die without being able to help and then come back for the rest and kill them.
Heck, maybe he's checking out the 'war is over' news... or maybe Helix said something like 'I think I see Megatron up here!' It's so hard to speculate on MtMe.

Looking at this posted it looks like some big huge secret code with the spoiler hI glint :p

Hahahaha seriously, some massive secerets going on.

I agree with you, it is very difficult to call this series, but that's what makes it so good and fresh.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:42 pm

No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:53 pm

John Stamoist wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:Yeah, the whole situation was just uncharacteristic for Kaon. I was sure he was going to do something downright brutal and didn't do it. However it popped into my head earlier that maybe TC told him how long it would take before the force field dropped so maybe he did leave his head and brain so the three others could stand helplessly by and watch him die without being able to help and then come back for the rest and kill them.
Heck, maybe he's checking out the 'war is over' news... or maybe Helix said something like 'I think I see Megatron up here!' It's so hard to speculate on MtMe.

Looking at this posted it looks like some big huge secret code with the spoiler hI glint :p

I love how my auto correct went all haywire there on 'highlight' :p darn phone (not that the tablet is much better on that) but I'm feeling too crumby to sit at my computer :p (stupid cold!)

John Stamoist wrote:Hahahaha seriously, some massive secerets going on.

I agree with you, it is very difficult to call this series, but that's what makes it so good and fresh.

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The Transformers comics has gotten me back into reading comics. I'm so picky that I went for 15 years without reading anything. But Transformers, MtMte specifically, has stories so amazingly complex and deep, touching on so many issues, fun and serious; and characters with so much personality that it was impossible to resist! The cliffhangers are well done, I'm never disappointed.

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:54 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

Yeah seriously man, he straight up got pub stomped. I mean sure he was low on energy, but Kaon didn't even have a scratch on him.......

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:56 pm

John Stamoist wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

Yeah seriously man, he straight up got pub stomped. I mean sure he was low on energy, but Kaon didn't even have a scratch on him.......[/quote]

Totally... Poor guy.

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:02 pm

ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

Totally... Poor guy.

Hey sorry can you edit your post please? I forgot to put the spoiler tags when I first posted ><

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:10 pm

ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:Yeah, the whole situation was just uncharacteristic for Kaon. I was sure he was going to do something downright brutal and didn't do it. However it popped into my head earlier that maybe TC told him how long it would take before the force field dropped so maybe he did leave his head and brain so the three others could stand helplessly by and watch him die without being able to help and then come back for the rest and kill them.
Heck, maybe he's checking out the 'war is over' news... or maybe Helix said something like 'I think I see Megatron up here!' It's so hard to speculate on MtMe.

Looking at this posted it looks like some big huge secret code with the spoiler hI glint :p

I love how my auto correct went all haywire there on 'highlight' :p darn phone (not that the tablet is much better on that) but I'm feeling too crumby to sit at my computer :p (stupid cold!)

John Stamoist wrote:Hahahaha seriously, some massive secerets going on.

I agree with you, it is very difficult to call this series, but that's what makes it so good and fresh.

The Transformers comics has gotten me back into reading comics. I'm so picky that I went for 15 years without reading anything. But Transformers, MtMte specifically, has stories so amazingly complex and deep, touching on so many issues, fun and serious; and characters with so much personality that it was impossible to resist! The cliffhangers are well done, I'm never disappointed.[/quote]

Totally agree with you. I thought the Dark Horse(Dark something) Transformers comics were good, but MtMtE has stepped it up to a new level. I've been trying to get my friend who really likes comic books to read this. He really likes the paper and art quality of RiD and MtMtE. Never really noticed until he showed me his DC issues, man are the Transformer comics high quality.

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:36 pm

Transformers has really set a high bar for comics. My husband jokes about me reading comics (all in fun, he reads comics too), but the stories are better than most novels and art is amazing (so much better than even just a few years ago)

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:39 pm

John Stamoist wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

Totally... Poor guy.

Hey sorry can you edit your post please? I forgot to put the spoiler tags when I first posted ><

Fixed . and spoilered mine just for fun too! :p

by **Gekas** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:12 pm

ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
John Stamoist wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:No matter what's going on, we call all perceptive and agree; Trailbreakercutter got **** up.

Totally... Poor guy.

Hey sorry can you edit your post please? I forgot to put the spoiler tags when I first posted ><

Fixed . and spoilered mine just for fun too! :p

Yeah when IDW first got the reigns for Tranformers I stopped reading the comics. The artwork was so much worse than before, and I was upset that they weren't going to finish the storyline that had been setup before the cancelation.

After some time though they completely astounded me with the leaps they made in story and visuals.

by **1984forever** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:55 am

I'm convinced that assignments are awarded based on completion of sexual favors and not talent at IDW. Dreamwave had better artists and they didn't even pay them!

I love Brainstorm as a Decepticon agent. I'm happy to see that there is at least one AUTObot jet that took a look at his alt-mode and said "hey, I don't turn into a car, so why am I wearing an AUTObot symbol? I'm supposed to be a Decepticon!"

News Credits: 3 · by **ctrlFrequency** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:57 am

1984forever wrote:
I love Brainstorm as a Decepticon agent. I'm happy to see that there is at least one AUTObot jet that took a look at his alt-mode and said "hey, I don't turn into a car, so why am I wearing an AUTObot symbol? I'm supposed to be a Decepticon!"

Here's the thing.

We don't know that Brainstorm is a Decepticon. Inside his face plate was a Decepticon symbol painted on, but we don't know the reason why it's there. It could be a million different reasons. A reminder (former Decepticon turned Autobot, the painted on symbol could be a reminder to not go back), he's a spy, he's on the fence, the DJD did it as a mark (it was painted on after all), he has a cerebo shell in his head and he didn't even know he had a symbol in his mask, he's a double agent, his faceplate came from a friend who was killed by Decepticons and he has a huge grudge, he has a really twisted sense of humor, someone else put it in there and he never knew it.
All of those are as probable as him being a Decepticon agent.
So please don't say with absolute certainty that Brainstorm is in fact a Decepticon. We don't know.

Not all Autobots are land vehicles, not all Decepticons are air vehicles. Not even in G1 were all the Autobots land vehicles and all the Decepticon Air Vehicles. Megatron was a gun, as was Shockwave, Soundwave a mini cassette player, Reflector a camera, then came aerialbots, constructicons, Stunticons, Blaster, Perceptor, Jetfire, etc. It's a faction not form.