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[AllNewSuperRobot]

Do we have any good leads on who the architect is then?

DUN, DUN, DUNNNN

[ZeroWolf]

You mock but it could be

[AllNewSuperRobot]

You mock but it could be

As long as it isn't Shockwave, or Prime (Nemesis or any other) or Auto-Megatron, it can only be an improvement.

[ZeroWolf]

Won't be shockwave, nova prime A stretch, megs, nah I think the architect was being seeded before he was even a bot.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Won't be shockwave, nova prime A stretch, megs, nah I think the architect was being seeded before he was even a bot.

So was Onyx Prime, no?

[Randomhero]

Except ramjet, thundering and sixshot are all confirmed dead.

...Sigh


Also, unless you have the printed panel with the demise of Thunderwing and Sixshot, they're not dead. It's just lazy writers who can't be bothered to use them.

Considering there’s only a handful of issues left and the throttlebots are a pretty reliable group sixshot is dead. If they said they finally killed him they killed him. And thundering was already dead, his body was just being remotely controlled by Jhiaxus. Plus it was last seen battling the wreckers. They’re not a group to just leave it where he was.

There’s never been an opportunity to use them in the stories that were told.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Considering there’s only a handful of issues left and the throttlebots are a pretty reliable group sixshot is dead. If they said they finally killed him they killed him. And thundewing was already dead, his body was just being remotely controlled by Jhiaxus. Plus it was last seen battling the wreckers. They’re not a group to just leave it where he was.

Yeah, the LEGENDARY Throttlebots, killed the Phase Six (World Destroying) Multi-Former? Yeah, that's not BS writing at all. It's like saying Jubilee killed Apocalypse

Thunderwing took the combined firepower of everyone present and was only stopped (not defeated) by falling into a near-bottomless chasm. Second time around took the fire power of everyone and only stopped (didn't die) because he ran out of power. The Wreckers are good, they don't have that much firepower though.

There’s never been an opportunity to use them in the stories that were told.

This is the actual truth, not the BS excuses above that they palmed fans off with.

[Randomhero]

Considering there’s only a handful of issues left and the throttlebots are a pretty reliable group sixshot is dead. If they said they finally killed him they killed him. And thundewing was already dead, his body was just being remotely controlled by Jhiaxus. Plus it was last seen battling the wreckers. They’re not a group to just leave it where he was.

Yeah, the LEGENDARY Throttlebots, killed the Phase Six (World Destroying) Multi-Former? Yeah, that's not BS writing at all. It's like saying Jubilee killed Apocalypse

Thunderwing took the combined firepower of everyone present and was only stopped (not defeated) by falling into a near-bottomless chasm. Second time around took the fire power of everyone and only stopped (didn't die) because he ran out of power. The Wreckers are good, they don't have that much firepower though.

There’s never been an opportunity to use them in the stories that were told.

This is the actual truth, not the BS excuses above that they palmed fans off with.

A Titan stomped on sixshot multiple times. He was already badly beaten. His body was broken.

And thundering is dead. He’s a just a giant husk. They did defeat him the first time and his corpse was found my Bludgeon and used ore-13 to power it back up and use a harness to control it. His body was greyed out when it was found showing that he had died. The only thing left was small traces of memory.

Also ya know..the writer confirmed thundering finished off by the wreckers. He’s gone.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

A Titan stomped on sixshot multiple times. He was already badly beaten. His body was broken.

And thundering is dead. He’s a just a giant husk. They did defeat him the first time and his corpse was found my Bludgeon and used ore-13 to power it back up and use a harness to control it. His body was greyed out when it was found showing that he had died. The only thing left was small traces of memory.

Also ya know..the writer confirmed thundering finished off by the wreckers. He’s gone.

Metroplex stepped on Sixshot once. The Throttlebots still wouldn't have the combined firepower to take him out.

Likewise the Harness was destroyed and the memories illustrated there was still some (albeit a trace) of his consciousness within the body itself. Let's also note that Bludgeon was left a vegetable by the end of that story too and "got better", because a writer actually wanted to use him.

Again, Comic book rules: if they didn't show Thunderwing being destroyed, it didn't happen. It's irrelevant what a writer says after the fact if it wasn't shown in print.

Barber could say Windblade is the reincarnated Queen of Sheba. Means just as little, without a book to show for it.

[ZeroWolf]

I do think the author's intent can be overruled if there's a story to tell but for all intents, their stories were finished. Bludgeon, being a Furman favourite was spared as he was a fan favourite because of the marvel comic run.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I do think the author's intent can be overruled if there's a story to tell but for all intents, their stories were finished. Bludgeon, being a Furman favourite was spared as he was a fan favourite because of the marvel comic run.

Exactly, intent is meaningless without an end result. As I've said before all the characters from pre-DoOP, that didn't fit into Transformers: House of Cards and/or Transformers: Red Dwarf, were cast aside. That is the literal truth of the matter.

[ZeroWolf]

Don't forget windblades three series which got characters like ironhide and another couple of oddities.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Most of which soon got rolled into TF: House of Cards...

[Daniel Adkins]

I'd rather characters be used because the writer has a story to tell with them than just bringing them back for the sake of it.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I'd prefer them to shuffle the deck and show some creativity with everything they have at their disposal. Rather than stick to the same handful over and over.

You make characters popular by using them, after all.

[ZeroWolf]

But it's not just down to the comics to make them popular, the other media does its part as well

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Perhaps, but the comic should always be at the forefront of pushing The New over the old.

[ZeroWolf]

Yes but then we reach problems with the fanbase. Exhibit A: Alpha Bravo and Off Road. IDW should have helped sell these new guys to the fans who were in revolt over their addition to the areialbots and stunticons respectively. We didn't get that though, AB got two lines and I think Off Road got one. For a franchise that's built on change, it's surprisingly hard to get the fanbase on board with change. Though people forgot how much change beast wars was and how beloved that was.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Exactly the point. My background with Transformers has been at the cusps of change. The Movie, swept all the Old away for The New. Loved it. Beast Wars moved away from G1 altogether and into the future. Loved it.

Moving forward is paramount. Also need to start factoring in the stranglehold of the original fanbase is waning now, as they grow older and older. As good a time as any but to give them no choice but to move with the times, just as Beast Wars did.

[Flashwave]

Actually guys, pretty sure after Metroplex stomped Sixshot there was a panel at the end of SixShot twitching like he wasnt dead

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Actually guys, pretty sure after Metroplex stomped Sixshot there was a panel at the end of SixShot twitching like he wasnt dead

It was after that, when the Throttlebots escaped the planet, that Sixshot came after them and got shot down and killed.

I'm personally not 100% sure we won't see Sixshot again. I feel like he could show up. We have several things in the solicitations that indicate cons coming back to cybertron has Unicron attacks

[Va'al]

We finally have the full previews for this week's comics from IDW Publishing featuring Transformers, and we're headed for a number of endings - continuing with Lost Light #20 below! Check it all out, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub as we prepare our review for the release date this new comic book day.

Transformers: Lost Light #20—Cover A: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Casey W. Coller (a) • Jack Lawrence (c)
Rodimus vs. Getaway! Finally!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Transformers: Lost Light #20—Cover B: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Casey W. Coller (a) • Jack Lawrence (c)
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Cyclonus vs. Star Saber!
It’s a battle for the heart and soul of the Lost Light!
A story years in the making!
B&W variant cover by Jack Lawrence!

[ZeroWolf]

Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?

[snavej]

Gareth Southgate, manager of the England soccer team.

[Randomhero]

Who's saving roddy then? Who's the bets on?

I don’t know but I do know that with Thunderclash being interrupted on the last panel he’s probably dead on the next page.