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[Randomhero]

Yeah they’re not dead. They’re in some form of shared stasis.

Ten has a spark, they acknowledge his voice is different, only dead people that are closely associated with the crew turn up, the stupid Warren makes another appearance out of nowhere, rodimus demands to see the guiding hand and VWOP! There they are.

It’s all an illusion to distract them from what’s actually going on.

[Randomhero]

Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”

Oh sure. I have no problem with most of it existing in the same universe. G.I Joe works, ROM works and MASK SHOULD have worked. I admit, I've not read Micronauts but I really don't like the idea of Visionaries. If they existed by themselves, they would probably be fine.

That’s the point of them being in a crossover book with transformers. Nobody knows or cares about visionaries. It was a failed toyline and cartoon. To even have its own comic would have no one reading it except the one nerd who was the one visionaries fan.

[Ironhidensh]

I think that is a big thing for me too. I don't like politics much. I pay attention because I have to and the issues effect our lives so we should be informed. It's kind of like having constant focus and anxiety over things that we are already dealing with in real life. I watch the news, I am aware of these issues. I want to take a break from them and have a little fun with comics. I want action, adventure, favorite characters and fun! I don't mind some heavy themes, stories that make us ask the hard questions or a little bit of politics now and again. But as a constant recurring theme, it's not for me.

Spot. ****. On.


When the message fits to the story, it's cool and works. In recent years, it feels that creators are fitting stories to their message, and that doesn't work. Even when I agree with the message, I don't want to see it as the focus. Escapism is a needed outlet to retain sanity in this world, and more often than not, it feels like it's being tossed aside so people can give themselves a soapbox to stand on.

Nothing drags me out of a story faster than being preached at.

[Crosscheck]

This might actually be a good way to bring back some of the dead characters. I don't see them bringing Skids back(he was finally at peace), but bring back Trailbreaker and Pipes and a few others.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Hopefully, with the end goal of the Lost Light supposedly in sight, the emergence of Unicron and talk of a reboot, the writers will take this to heart and take full advantage of it IE A Movie-style mass purge.

[Galactic Prime]

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Not upset at all man. I'm just right.

Fact = fact when it's garbage.

Fixed it for you

Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.

arguing is wrong now?

God forbid.

No one was picking a fight, except it seems him with me. Apparently you're only allowed to agree with the majority here.

How is telling you that your opinion does NOT equal fact picking a fight? Reading into too much there mate.

You're more than welcome to disagree with peoples opinions, but do it without resorting to insults as you've been doing.

I’m not interested in reading about Transformers that resemble you because you are not interesting.

I'm just over the whole socio-political statements they sneak in.

Comics are supposed to be an escape from reality, not a platform for an individuals opinion.

Wait ... did a staff member just say something negative about IDW? Yeah, sorry but your first statement is in fact incorrect. Staff are divided on these books as much as members.

All opinions are welcome, be it for or against, just accept and respect the opinions of those that don't agree with you. We can disagree in a civilised manner.

I said I wasn't picking a fight, I was accused of it, did you read the whole thing? Second, I haven't slung one insult at anyone, but I have been insulted. So maybe you should be speaking to someone else regarding behaviour around here, because there is nothing wrong with mine.

Facts are Facts and the facts state the IDW books are garbage, if they were the shining jewels some of you claim them to be they wouldn't be selling so poorly.

[ScottyP]

On the absences:
Anode and Lug I figure was just page space. We'll see.

I think Chromedome and Rewind are being saved for something where they run into Chromedome's seven evil exes former conjunx and bad things happen.

Rung I can't figure out. However, I bet it will be resolution to the part during the beginning of S2 where the quantum duplicate LL was stated to have "lost" him during the initial explosion on launch day.

[Va'al]

Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:

- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)


But mostly:

- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!

[Stormshot_Prime]

Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:

- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)


But mostly:

- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!

That humor really is a little jarring. Not that it’s bad per se, but’s it’s almost like it’s covering the story’s tracks or making up for a couple empty moments. But that’s just a small complaint of mine, there’s so much good happening now in LL, finally.

Truthfully, I don’t think anything is what it seems. Not Getaway finding “Cyberuoptia” (lookin way different than its supposed appearance with skids in issue 21 I think), not anything happening in Skip. And now we have even more mystery in the Grand Architect/Scorponok/Knight House stuff.

Not to mention, the Worldsweeper crashes into the White House in OP’s vision in All Hail Optimus. Even with all this potential IDW-ending stuff coming up maybe, I think ultimately Lost Light is going to come back around to significant importance and tie everything off.

Part of the reason why I started not liking the later MTMTE and LL is because the impact on the overall TF universe felt so much less, like everything else is almost happening in a totally different universe.

[Burn]

Thoughts ... not a review, because people hated it when I reviewed books

This was a good, balanced issue.

It had a nice balance between the good and the bad that have divided fans over this series.

Whirl ... we really need more Whirl. His brutal honesty really shines in this issue. As does Rodimus' hot headedness, for once I actually didn't hate Rodimus.

There wasn't any connection back to some plot point from X years ago, something this book is notorious for, something I truly detest about this book. It's a straight up "here and now".

Admittedly the book doesn't really answer any questions (in fact I was left disappointed with the "OMG! TEN CAN SPEAK!" arc), but it does end in a way that leaves me looking forward to the next issue.

It's not the sort of issue that would win back fans who have given up on the comic, but for those of us who are holding on, many of you should enjoy it.

But seriously, we need more Whirl.

[ZeroWolf]

Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:

- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)


But mostly:

- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!

That humor really is a little jarring. Not that it’s bad per se, but’s it’s almost like it’s covering the story’s tracks or making up for a couple empty moments. But that’s just a small complaint of mine, there’s so much good happening now in LL, finally.

Truthfully, I don’t think anything is what it seems. Not Getaway finding “Cyberuoptia” (lookin way different than its supposed appearance with skids in issue 21 I think), not anything happening in Skip. And now we have even more mystery in the Grand Architect/Scorponok/Knight House stuff.

Not to mention, the Worldsweeper crashes into the White House in OP’s vision in All Hail Optimus. Even with all this potential IDW-ending stuff coming up maybe, I think ultimately Lost Light is going to come back around to significant importance and tie everything off.

Part of the reason why I started not liking the later MTMTE and LL is because the impact on the overall TF universe felt so much less, like everything else is almost happening in a totally different universe.

Given its very plot, I don't think there's much that ll could do that would affect the overall state of the universe. Unless they pulled a "Q Who/best of both worlds" scenario wherein the ll encountered a threat (let's say the swarm for example) and managed to get away while the swarm, now having a taste for cybertonian, travelled and attack prime and Co.

While it can feel like different universes, I picture it more like the avengers and guardians of the galaxy, you know that they are connected but the threats they face rarely matter to the other (talking comics here)

[Ironhidensh]

Found this on the book of faces tonight. I like it.

[ZeroWolf]

That's awesome

[Sagitta]

Dunno about anyone else...but notice that aside from Chromedome & Rewind our favorite "historical constant" has been missing since everyone abandoned Skip?

[Big Grim]

I loved this issue. Plenty of interesting stuff going on. I admit, I felt absurdly happy when Cyclonus found Tailgate. It was sweet.

Agree that we need more Whirl. He was a joy in this issue. Rodimus amused me rather a lot too.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Found this on the book of faces tonight. I like it.

I'd forgotten Cyclonus did have a design in Animated.

[Va'al]

As issue #16 of IDW Publishing's ongoing comics series Transformers: Lost Light hit the stands (digital and less so) this week, we also have some more artwork for the upcoming issue #17 - the second part of this new story arc - for the two Jack Lawrence variant covers that will feature on the issue: one with a very ascending Ultra Magnus, and one with a defiant Rodimus in the faces of the Guiding Hand. Check them out below, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub!

Transformers: Lost Light #17

(W) James Roberts (A/CA) Jack Lawrence
"The Everlasting Voices," Part 2! Hot Rod and company are dead. The Allspark is real. And Hot Rod is about to meet his maker(s)! Oh, Primus! Somebody stop him!
In Shops: Apr 25, 2018
SRP: $3.99

[Rodimus Prime]

Looking at that Magnus cover, I'm getting flashbacks of TFA Prowl.

[ZeroWolf]

Nice covers there, so aside from if this is actually happening or not, is roddy about to his his feet where his mouth is?

[Ironhidensh]

Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.

[Hydrargyrus]

Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.

Just imagine Sky Lynx.

[Seibertron]

Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.

Just imagine Sky Lynx.

He'd say something conceited to the powers-that-be. You know he would!

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Funny aside,

As I've mentioned, I am currently collecting a TF part-work. Covering all Transformers comics from Marvel to IDW. The newest two arrived today: IDWverse - Titan's Return and The Dying of The Light. Now I haven't read anything recent outside of this part-work since Death of Optimus Prime, so this collection is very informative. But I digress, it was the cover image for the MTMTE story that amused me....

[ZeroWolf]

You the fact they went with g1 design cyclonus and not how he looks for idw? I've seen it many times on collections like that. Although I do question the release list of books like that...I thought a release order would be best as dying of the light wraps up a few storyline from MTMTE

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Easy to forget how good the original Cyclonus design looks, minus the Sunbow "make up".
The release order of these books seems very random. One of the previous books to these, was part two of Dark Cybertron. A lot of context was missing from that one too.