Lore Keeper wrote:So, thoughts on the last panel of 'LL #13? I'm definitely intrigued.
Intriguing yes, here's hoping it has a good pay off.
I'd hope for more stories involving Ten, but it'll just end up taking away the mystique of the character.
Lore Keeper wrote:So, thoughts on the last panel of 'LL #13? I'm definitely intrigued.
Burn wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:So, thoughts on the last panel of 'LL #13? I'm definitely intrigued.
Intriguing yes, here's hoping it has a good pay off.
I'd hope for more stories involving Ten, but it'll just end up taking away the mystique of the character.
Lore Keeper wrote:Burn wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:So, thoughts on the last panel of 'LL #13? I'm definitely intrigued.
Intriguing yes, here's hoping it has a good pay off.
I'd hope for more stories involving Ten, but it'll just end up taking away the mystique of the character.
He's been an enigma since his introduction. The Legislators are supposedly sparkless drones, but we know that many of them were built from the remains of the slaughtered Circle of Light. I've long suspected that Ten is one of these, and that there is somehow some remnant of his original self in there. The ending of this issue makes me more convinced of this. Now I'm just trying to figure out who he used to be.
Lore Keeper wrote:[ The Legislators are supposedly sparkless drones, but we know that many of them were built from the remains of the slaughtered Circle of Light. I've long suspected that Ten is one of these, and that there is somehow some remnant of his original self in there. The ending of this issue makes me more convinced of this. Now I'm just trying to figure out who he used to be.
ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
I know the wiki guys posit that it's a continuity error but I don't think the dialogue is unambiguous enough to make that a certainty.Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
Ooh, I like this idea. Why else would there be such a time gap between events like there is? Although with Spinister losing an arm that makes this a little less likely - but I still like the thought!TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm calling it now, Grimlock didn't dismember the rest of the scavengers, Spinster did, in a way that keeps them all alive and easily repairable for an escape attempt.
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
ScottyP wrote:I know the wiki guys posit that it's a continuity error but I don't think the dialogue is unambiguous enough to make that a certainty.Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
ScottyP wrote:Ooh, I like this idea. Why else would there be such a time gap between events like there is? Although with Spinister losing an arm that makes this a little less likely - but I still like the thought!TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm calling it now, Grimlock didn't dismember the rest of the scavengers, Spinster did, in a way that keeps them all alive and easily repairable for an escape attempt.
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
ricemazter wrote:I found this issue to just be okay. It mostly felt like a whole lot of exposition with some bright spots that could've used more coverage.
I haven't really been interested in Nickel, but the idea that there's still this disconnect between her and other Decepticons is really cool and puts her change of heart at the end of DotL into perspective. She doesn't regret that she aided and abetted in the butchering of perhaps thousands of her fellow cons; that was for the cause. She just regrets that Tarn treated "innocent" cons as expendable. That's a neat idea I wish wasn't shut down immediately.
It was also nice to hang out with the scavengers again, but unfortunate that this was an "explain the plot" issue. This cast really works better within self contained stories.
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