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[misfire19d]

That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!

How so?

How is it not horrendous?

shill

[ZeroWolf]

It reminds me of the days of the original Marvel comic, or more precisely the UK transformers annuals. Still don't see why they are horrendous

[Daniel Adkins]

That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!

How so?

How is it not horrendous?

shill

It would help if you actually described your problems with it.

[Va'al]

That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!

How so?

How is it not horrendous?

shill

It would help if you actually described your problems with it.

Indeed! I was just asking to see if I understand the misgivings, whether I accept them or not.

[Deadput]

@Deadput what's so bad about Nickel? Please don't just answer back saying "everything", I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't like her.

Late reply but the answer is...

Everything


There is nothing I like about Nickel, I hate her personality and find it annoying as hell, I hate how she bosses the DJD and god damn Deathsaurus (Commander Nickel god kill me or actually better yet kill her), I hate how she basically ruined the DJD by being one of the first things that took away any credibility the DJD had as a threat and made them pathetic with her role being their team "mom" (Later other aditions ruined them further), I hate how she's this "cute" character similar to how far they took Tailgate (And ruined him as well).

Why the hell did she take command over Deathsaurus when she did absolutely nothing to deserve it literally nothing she's a prime example of a really bad oc.


The only thing I don't hate is her design instead I just simply don't like it since it's a "chibi" design I don't think works well.


Sorry I don't like badly written shoehorned in Robert Oc's (I only like Rung out of the "main" oc's he's introduced in MTMTE/LL the others I either hate such as Anode (Who I almost hate as much as Nickel), think are stale and boring (Nautica and Ambulon the only other ones I don't hate but I still don't find them great, Tyrest who is a generic insane bad guy among a sea of generic insane bad guys who so happen to be the only kind of character Roberts can attempt to write), have been ruined by bad writing (The DJD, Rapidfire as an example of wasted potential) or have not had enough time to be shown for me to have an opinion such as the rest of Thunderclash's and Firestar's Oc crew.

Edit: I forgot about Riptide and Fulcrum...probably because of how forgettable and bland they are.

I just irrationally hate her, every time I see or remember her my blood boils, I hate her more then any bad human in a Micheal Bay Transformers movie and is in my top 3 most hated characters in the whole franchise.

[Lore Keeper]

I agree with people that Nickel suddenly being the commander of Deathsaurus's forces comes from out of nowhere. But, I give James Roberts enough credit to expect that an explanation is forthcoming, and it will probably be delightfully humorous and interesting. Or I'm wrong and Nickel's the biggest Mary Sue ever.

[Deadput]

I agree with people that Nickel suddenly being the commander of Deathsaurus's forces comes from out of nowhere. But, I give James Roberts enough credit to expect that an explanation is forthcoming, and it will probably be delightfully humorous and interesting. Or I'm wrong and Nickel's the biggest Mary Sue ever.

Not with this series track record, it's gonna be a stupid explanation.

[ZeroWolf]

@Deadput what's so bad about Nickel? Please don't just answer back saying "everything", I'm genuinely curious as to why you don't like her.

Late reply but the answer is...

Everything


There is nothing I like about Nickel, I hate her personality and find it annoying as hell, I hate how she bosses the DJD and god damn Deathsaurus (Commander Nickel god kill me or actually better yet kill her), I hate how she basically ruined the DJD by being one of the first things that took away any credibility the DJD had as a threat and made them pathetic with her role being their team "mom" (Later other aditions ruined them further), I hate how she's this "cute" character similar to how far they took Tailgate (And ruined him as well).

Why the hell did she take command over Deathsaurus when she did absolutely nothing to deserve it literally nothing she's a prime example of a really bad oc.


The only thing I don't hate is her design instead I just simply don't like it since it's a "chibi" design I don't think works well.


Sorry I don't like badly written shoehorned in Robert Oc's (I only like Rung out of the "main" oc's he's introduced in MTMTE/LL the others I either hate such as Anode (Who I almost hate as much as Nickel), think are stale and boring (Nautica and Ambulon the only other ones I don't hate but I still don't find them great, Tyrest who is a generic insane bad guy among a sea of generic insane bad guys who so happen to be the only kind of character Roberts can attempt to write), have been ruined by bad writing (The DJD, Rapidfire as an example of wasted potential) or have not had enough time to be shown for me to have an opinion such as the rest of Thunderclash's and Firestar's Oc crew.

Edit: I forgot about Riptide and Fulcrum...probably because of how forgettable and bland they are.

I just irrationally hate her, every time I see or remember her my blood boils, I hate her more then any bad human in a Micheal Bay Transformers movie and is in my top 3 most hated characters in the whole franchise.

Thank you for replying and admitting it is irrational. See if don't find her annoying and maybe it's a sign that Roberts sense of humour isn't to everyone's tastes. I'm all for adding original character's especially more fembots and I know that people say there's still a lot of characters who were introduced in the toy lines that haven't seen any love but I think there's room for more.

Still I'm now curious as to who your other hated characters are.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Legitimate question here: did Roberts ever talk about the major issues of Anode's origins on Twitter?

I got my LL V1 last week and I read it, and I tolerated Lawrence's art more, but it also brought up a huge question for me: Anode. I have really disliked this character since her intro, but after issue 8 and then rereading Volume 1, there are some major issues.

Volume 1 our universe establishes her as being from Caminus. She was in the same sorority as Velocity, she was a blacksmith, she abandoned the place and left after failing to create a protoform. The same volume also had her knowing about Cybertron and Luna 2 and the Decepticons 500 years ago thanks to her leaving Caminus.

Volume 1 Functionist universe had her as being from Cybertron, still a female, still a blacksmith. But with the new functionist order, the colonies were not found. the history was altered well after the colony titans left, so that is not an issue, just that her colony would not have been found. Yet here she is a resident of Cybertron, still female.

Issue 8 then has her from Cybertron in our universe, and she traveled around a lot and decided to switch over from a he to a she.

So in short, in the space of 8 issues, she was shown to be from Caminus as a she, from Cybertron as a she, and from Cybertron as a he that became a she. Was this discrepancy ever brought up to Roberts and he answered? I'd really like to know.

[ArmadaPrime]

I /might/ be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that main-universe anode had always been originally from Cybertron, moved to caminus and from spending a lot of time there and discovering the concept of a non-single-gender species realised she was female.
As for the functionist-U anode, I'm not sure it's been directly addressed. It /could/ be that simply through talking with those who'd visited multiple-choice planets (organic or metallic), she realised what fit for her in much the same way as if she'd visited herself (as discussed in LL8), but I don't think that's been stated outright.
This is all of the top of my head, so I could well be wrong! There's a Tumblr account which collates all of Roberts' MTMTE-related answers to twitter questions, I'll see if I can find it when I get home

[Daniel Adkins]

Its said in issue #8 that she learned about gender from the Primal Vanguard, so she had already transitioned prior to going to Caminus. Same thing easily could've happened in the FU.

[Targetmaster Kup]

Lost Light's fill preview had been posted at https://www.newsarama.com/38256-meet-ne ... eview.html

It's looking better and better!

[Ironhidensh]

so Anode literally has a Eads up her ass. Dmax is gonna be thrilled.

[Lore Keeper]

That... was unexpected...

[Rodimus Prime]

It would be nice if Grimlock actually was a prominent part of the story instead of just a cover tease.

[Bounti76]

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Targetmaster Kup pointing us towards Newsarama, we now have a full five-page preview for the upcoming thirteenth issue of IDW's Lost Light! Due out this Wednesday, January 24th, the story picks back up with Rodimus & Crew as well as Fortress Maximus, Red Alert and Cerebros coming to the rescue of those left on Necroworld! Check it out below, and come back to the Energon Pub on Wednesday when it's released to discuss what happens!

Transformers: Lost Light #13
James Roberts (w) • Alex Milne (a) • Jack Lawrence (c)
CABIN FEVER! Crammed into a dead Decepticon astropod that's ten sizes too small, the displaced crew of the Lost Light face their most serious threat yet: each other. As tensions rise and tempers fray, only one Autobot is arrogant enough to think he can save the day. Enter Rodimus, expert mediator.

[Bounti76]

UGH. After reading that preview, I'm glad I canceled my subscription to Lost Light. After last issue, and the way super-powered super strong Star Saber took out Defensor like a chump (where was his forcefield??) and sliced Mirage to pieces....not to mention Rook being blown to bits......we go in this issue with Anode and she's back to being annoying as all hell. Does Roberts genuinely think he's so hilarious making everything that comes out of her mouth so "clever" and "witty"? The way she's being written, I seriously hope she meets up with Star Saber, too. An extra head up her robo-a**?? Are you KIDDING me?? It's almost over-the-top embarrassing to read her dialogue and storylines because the way it's written is so cringeworthy.

[BeePrime]

UGH. After reading that preview, I'm glad I canceled my subscription to Lost Light. After last issue, and the way super-powered super strong Star Saber took out Defensor like a chump (where was his forcefield??) and sliced Mirage to pieces....not to mention Rook being blown to bits......we go in this issue with Anode and she's back to being annoying as all hell. Does Roberts genuinely think he's so hilarious making everything that comes out of her mouth so "clever" and "witty"? The way she's being written, I seriously hope she meets up with Star Saber, too. An extra head up her robo-a**?? Are you KIDDING me?? It's almost over-the-top embarrassing to read her dialogue and storylines because the way it's written is so cringeworthy.

Seconded. I still read the synopsis on TFWiki though, because I guess I LIKE punishment...

[Bounti76]

UGH. After reading that preview, I'm glad I canceled my subscription to Lost Light. After last issue, and the way super-powered super strong Star Saber took out Defensor like a chump (where was his forcefield??) and sliced Mirage to pieces....not to mention Rook being blown to bits......we go in this issue with Anode and she's back to being annoying as all hell. Does Roberts genuinely think he's so hilarious making everything that comes out of her mouth so "clever" and "witty"? The way she's being written, I seriously hope she meets up with Star Saber, too. An extra head up her robo-a**?? Are you KIDDING me?? It's almost over-the-top embarrassing to read her dialogue and storylines because the way it's written is so cringeworthy.

Seconded. I still read the synopsis on TFWiki though, because I guess I LIKE punishment...

I do, too. I can skip the far-too-clever dialogue and still get the gist of the story, but I'm convinced Roberts has lost his touch, and is now making his original characters do and say the most over the top crap..... if it turns out that there's some spectacular story he's building, and I just can't see it, I'll eat my words gladly, LL is too silly, over the top and all over the place with story to earn my money.

[Targetmaster Kup]

That coloring on the B Covers is horrendous!

How so?

How is it not horrendous?

shill

It would help if you actually described your problems with it.

Indeed! I was just asking to see if I understand the misgivings, whether I accept them or not.

Lack of depth.

[ZeroWolf]

I didn't think she was annoying, but I guess my humour aligns quite well here in what is supposed to be the lighter half of the tf comics. Also not all the blame falls on Roberts as there is someone above him, checking all these ideas. The editor is someone who seems to never get the blame I'm these circumstances, I wonder why that is...

The star saber thing, I've got a couple of theories:

1# he's received a power up to make him more of a threat, he was injured in his last fight so it makes sense that tryest would repair him and make him stronger.

2# this is based on the theory that getaway is stuck in a memory loop as well. Now starsaber was only able to do that to Defensor due to getaway believing that would be the result, basically, starsaber is as strong as getaway thinks he is. Although starsaber would have no trouble with mirage at all.

[Randomhero]

I didn't think she was annoying, but I guess my humour aligns quite well here in what is supposed to be the lighter half of the tf comics. Also not all the blame falls on Roberts as there is someone above him, checking all these ideas. The editor is someone who seems to never get the blame I'm these circumstances, I wonder why that is...

The star saber thing, I've got a couple of theories:

1# he's received a power up to make him more of a threat, he was injured in his last fight so it makes sense that tryest would repair him and make him stronger.

2# this is based on the theory that getaway is stuck in a memory loop as well. Now starsaber was only able to do that to Defensor due to getaway believing that would be the result, basically, starsaber is as strong as getaway thinks he is. Although starsaber would have no trouble with mirage at all.

Or option three: bad writing.

You’re giving way too much credit and thinking way too hard

[Moody magpie]

Well at least the artwork looks good.

[Ironhidensh]

I didn't think she was annoying, but I guess my humour aligns quite well here in what is supposed to be the lighter half of the tf comics. Also not all the blame falls on Roberts as there is someone above him, checking all these ideas. The editor is someone who seems to never get the blame I'm these circumstances, I wonder why that is...

The star saber thing, I've got a couple of theories:

1# he's received a power up to make him more of a threat, he was injured in his last fight so it makes sense that tryest would repair him and make him stronger.

2# this is based on the theory that getaway is stuck in a memory loop as well. Now starsaber was only able to do that to Defensor due to getaway believing that would be the result, basically, starsaber is as strong as getaway thinks he is. Although starsaber would have no trouble with mirage at all.

Or option three: bad writing.

You’re giving way too much credit and thinking way too hard

No, he isn't. Robert's is probably the greatest Transformers writer we've ever had. I may not like the direction the story is going, but that does not make it a bad story.

[LE0KING]

I didn't think she was annoying, but I guess my humour aligns quite well here in what is supposed to be the lighter half of the tf comics. Also not all the blame falls on Roberts as there is someone above him, checking all these ideas. The editor is someone who seems to never get the blame I'm these circumstances, I wonder why that is...

The star saber thing, I've got a couple of theories:

1# he's received a power up to make him more of a threat, he was injured in his last fight so it makes sense that tryest would repair him and make him stronger.

2# this is based on the theory that getaway is stuck in a memory loop as well. Now starsaber was only able to do that to Defensor due to getaway believing that would be the result, basically, starsaber is as strong as getaway thinks he is. Although starsaber would have no trouble with mirage at all.

Or option three: bad writing.

You’re giving way too much credit and thinking way too hard

No, he isn't. Robert's is probably the greatest Transformers writer we've ever had. I may not like the direction the story is going, but that does not make it a bad story.

Did you read Till all are one? In my opinion Scott wrote circles around Roberts last year. Ever since John Barber stopped editing him, James has continued to make bad decisions and add poorer dialogue.
I don't know if Barber was holding him in check, or he's lost his touch, or what, but Lost Light feels like a poor shadow of mtmte.