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Review of IDW Optimus Prime #5

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:22 pm

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Synopsis
It’s battleground: Earth once more, as the uneasy peace between Optimus’ forces, the Junkions, and G.I. Joe collapses amidst betrayals and subterfuge. Will Optimus Prime and Pyra Magna be able to put aside their differences—or is war really the only way forward?

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Story

The turbofox excrement hit the ventilator last issue, as you might recall, with Sharkticons pouring out of the Junkion corkscrew ship by the thousands, Pyra and Optimus not entirely seeing eye to eye (and the complications, if you will, seen in the Ghost Stories annual), and the human side of the alliance still being the squishier part of the two - not ideal in most combat situations.

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For an issue that is very, very much tense and building up to a potentially even bigger rupture point, John Barber manages to work in a lot - and I mean a lot - of humour: quips, side comments, snide comments, jokes, tension being maaaybe defused by the likes of Wreck-Gar, Cosmos, the captions, even Aileron and some early snark from flashback cameos. Prowl is undoubtedly not amused.

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The narrating voice this issue belongs to Arcee, whose story is still somewhat being developed, and we get to find out more about her attachment to Sideswipe, why she needs him to live, how she might do that, and how her skills will turn in handy in this new fight erupting just over Earth again. The tone, at times, feels a little discordant with the action taking place, I'll admit, but not entirely distracting.

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A number of readers and followers of the story have commented on the ruthlessness of Optimus Prime as seen in the preview, and speculation is running high on why he might be behaving this way after all. There may be more to it in the flashback again, as it develops both his motivations (next to omnipresent Prowl) and, in a very nice parallel track, Soundwave's. More on this below!

Art

Kei Zama returns to the artwork after the one month fill-in, and we get to see even more of her Sharkticons in action, plus the dynamism of the various action sequences in the issue are brought out in their wider framing without losing any of the detail that her style focuses on. Plus her Optimus looks truly menacing, with the broken faceplate and warlord stances.

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Staying as the staple connector between artists is technicolour wizzzard Josh Burcham, and I still really appreciate the contrasts between flashback and current time, plus the paler palettes used to counteract the heavier inking of Zama's style - Junkions and Sharkticons both continue to look excellent, and battles are even more vicious as a result.

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Where I mention above that the Arcee caption monologue can be jarring, the result is definitely tuned down by the lettering, marking them out as separate, in effect, from the action in the panels they show up; the lettering choices by Tom B. Long make it easy to separate and follow equally. Cover-wise, we have a full TF roster with week with some excellent Casey Coller/Joana Lafuente, Andrew Griffith/Josh Perez and EJ Su pieces to accompany the main Zama/Burcham one. All can be seen in our database entry for the issue, here.

Thoughts
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What started out potentially a just-action-fight-scenes sequence, turned out to be a pretty excellent chapter rushing towards the finale in the next issue, and a highlight for many characters involved in the cast: Arcee gets her moments, though I expect more next time; Jetfire, Aileron, the Colonists get some nice time, Cosmos is thrown about and even Optimus himself has a decent block of character added to him.

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But it is Soundwave that absolutely shines here, and shows his true Decepticon ideological self - echoing some of the best revolutionary discourse, showing his actual political inclinations, deploying the skills that made his so valuable to the purple cause in what could've been a devastating new conflict - and resulting much scarier (if HECK YEAH) in the process. Suck it, Funny Truck.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:34 pm

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This was an amazing issue and I loved it!

I'm willing to bet that the this flashback scene is where Optimus goes from the awesome good cop of the MTMTE stories to the hardass cop from the Autocracy stories
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:40 pm

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I enjoy that the passage from "Towards Peace" used is the same one that Twincast 159 started with. My favorite lines that James has defined from the imaginary work, and Barber's usage here is dead on point and extremely complementary to the character of Soundwave that he's built up.

Cassette Sharkticons, please. Plz.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:41 pm

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Anyone else wondering where Rumble and Frenzy are though? Or is Cosmos the only one who survived
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:18 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Anyone else wondering where Rumble and Frenzy are though? Or is Cosmos the only one who survived

Just another two Season 1/2 crew to chalk up to questionable status!

Rumble & Frenzy - Status unknown
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Dirge - We haven't seen him for years seriously where is he
Astrotrain - Status REALLY unknown what the heck is going on in MASK

Man, along with Shockwave, Thrust, Ramjet and Ravage being dead there's so few left. Megatron, Soundwave, the original 3 Seekers and the bird Cassettes represent.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:40 pm

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I really enjoyed this issue, but.....for the love of Primus.....can we PLEASE be rid of the captioning of every individual in EVERY SINGLE issue?? I realize it may have been for "new" readers to the book, but five issues in, it's now just clutter. Zama's artwork is already fairly heavy and dense, and captioning everyone is really starting to work against it.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:11 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:I really enjoyed this issue, but.....for the love of Primus.....can we PLEASE be rid of the captioning of every individual in EVERY SINGLE issue?? I realize it may have been for "new" readers to the book, but five issues in, it's now just clutter. Zama's artwork is already fairly heavy and dense, and captioning everyone is really starting to work against it.
I still really like it in the Joe book because I'm bad at remembering their names. Also the captions on the captions are quippy and knowing that would irritate Prowl makes it entertaining! But yes, I can understand wanting a little less text bubble too.
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Variant Cover for IDW Optimus Prime #6 by Kei Zama and Josh Burcham

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:55 pm

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While we have seen two of the variant covers offered for IDW Publishing's Optimus Prime #6, out next month, we now also have another Kei Zama / Josh Burcham piece of art, featuring Skylynx, Optimus and Metrotitan, in clean linework and full colour! Check it out below from Zama's Twitter feed.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:00 am

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I'm starting to warm to Zama's art, though it is still a bit heavy looking for my tastes.

Va'al, any chance we'll be getting a TAAO #8 review?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:47 am

When is a third party gonna make a seriously ripping Sky lynx? This needs to happen.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:13 am

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Bounti76 wrote:I'm starting to warm to Zama's art, though it is still a bit heavy looking for my tastes.

Va'al, any chance we'll be getting a TAAO #8 review?


Yep, it's on its way! I'm just very very very jet lagged and had actual work to attend to first - was drained by time I got home.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:34 am

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Va'al wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I'm starting to warm to Zama's art, though it is still a bit heavy looking for my tastes.

Va'al, any chance we'll be getting a TAAO #8 review?


Yep, it's on its way! I'm just very very very jet lagged and had actual work to attend to first - was drained by time I got home.


Excellent, thanks! ;)^ Just wasn't sure if someone else was going to be guest-reviewing it, as it were.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:56 am

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I like Zama's art. Very 2000AD in my opinion.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:07 am

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Big Grim wrote:I like Zama's art. Very 2000AD in my opinion.


Very much so, and in hers too. :D
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:52 am

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Va'al wrote:
Big Grim wrote:I like Zama's art. Very 2000AD in my opinion.


Very much so, and in hers too. :D

Oh, awesome! She's stated that's an inspiration?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:12 am

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Big Grim wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Big Grim wrote:I like Zama's art. Very 2000AD in my opinion.


Very much so, and in hers too. :D

Oh, awesome! She's stated that's an inspiration?


Yes and no - she's made no secret of it!

https://tfnation.com/2017/guests/Kei%20Zama

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https://2000adonline.tumblr.com/post/11 ... Nz2E0f-vOQ
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:22 am

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Whoa, there's a lot of awesome on display there! Man, I remember loving ABC Warriors back in the day!
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Re: Variant Cover for IDW Optimus Prime #6 by Kei Zama and Josh Burcham

Postby Kurona » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:09 am

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Va'al wrote:While we have seen two of the variant covers offered for IDW Publishing's Optimus Prime #6, out next month, we now also have another Kei Zama / Josh Burcham piece of art, featuring Skylynx, Optimus and Metrotitan, in clean linework and full colour! Check it out below from Zama's Twitter feed.

See, all this? Didn't need to say it. Completely unnecessary.

All you needed to say was THIS IS F*CKING AWESOME
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Insurgent » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:48 am

I love this artwork. I really do. And I like the idea of Prime finally breaking and unintentionally turning into Megatron. It's a new thing for him.


But.... I'm gonna have to drop this series. I've given the first arc a try, and it has some good ideas, but Pyra Magna is just not clicking with me. The tease of Quints was nice, and I thought maybe we were going to get some good stuff with the Junkions, but it's just turned into 'invading robot army wants to destroy the world again.' And I just lost all interest in the Junkions at that point. We could at least have made it the Junkions themselves. Just imagine if a crazed biker gang was sweeping across the planet! But no, it's just hordes of sharkticons. Have we even seen any Junkions outside Wreckgar and Mummyjunk? I forget her name.


But the worst offender is a result of Reevolution. If it was generic soldiers, fine. If it was treated like generic soldiers with GI Joe names, like in G2, fine. But every time I see the GI Joe logo plastered everywehere, it completely takes me out of the story. And it's being driven home that this is GI Joe. I read Transformer comics for Transformer stories. If I wanted to read Joe stories, I would read Joe comics. It's just breaking immersion too much for me to continue with this book. Which is a shame, because I was really looking forward to an ongoing in Zama's style.
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Sneak Peek - IDW Optimus Prime #6

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:36 pm

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iTunes has once again provided us with a sneak peek, this time in the form of IDW Optimus Prime #6. Picking up where #5 left off, we have Arcee battling for the positron core, Rumble and Frenzy have survived, and the big battle appears to be headed to its ending. Oh and GI Joe are there too.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:05 am

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The story seems fine, the art is still a little heavy and dense for my liking, but I'm warming to it.....

.....but for the love of Primus, can we PLEASE get rid of those damn captions on EVERY. SINGLE. CHARACTER. EVERY. SINGLE. ISSUE?? While Zama's art is growing on me, the captions make her art and the pages look even busier than it already is. Six issues in, I'm pretty sure we're all up to speed on who they all are. :BOOM:
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:32 am

Hey woo-hoo issue 4 introduces Olier back in comics and awaiting new character development :-D

Issue 6....dead :BANG_HEAD:

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