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Full Preview of IDW Optimus Prime #2

Postby Va'al » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:54 pm

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Via another surprising choice for a reveal, we have the IDW Publishing Transformers Optimus Prime #2 full issue preview. The images come courtesy of comics website Comic Crusaders, and can be seen below - head back to Seibertron.com for our review once the book is out next week!

NEW CYBERTRON! A massive corkscrew-shaped space ship has drilled into Earth, bringing with it a surprising disruption to OPTIMUS PRIME’s plans. Meanwhile—ARCEE fields a dangerous offer that may be too good to resist!

Optimus Prime #2
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrewing » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:31 pm

It becomes even better if you read it in Eric's voice.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:46 pm

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I don't know.....compared from Issue #1 to this......the art style is just cluttered, there's no better word for it. There's too much crammed into every panel, too much going on to follow the narrative without multiple re-readings, etc. If it continues this way, I may just unsubscribe from the book and catch up with it on the wiki.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:43 am

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IDW Optimus Prime #3 RI Cover by Joana Lafuente

Postby Va'al » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:31 am

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Let's start the new year with some contemplation and good art, with two new incentive covers for upcoming issues of IDW Publishing Transformers comics - first up, Optimus Prime #3's retailer incentive cover by Joana Lafuente, with Earth, Optimus and a lot of spaaace. Check it out below via Previews World!

Optimus Prime #3
John Barber (w) • Kei Zama (a & c)
An uneasy peace between Optimus Prime and the newly arrived Junkions is threatened by Soundwave’s discovery within their massive ship…
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:27 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:I don't know.....compared from Issue #1 to this......the art style is just cluttered, there's no better word for it. There's too much crammed into every panel, too much going on to follow the narrative without multiple re-readings, etc. If it continues this way, I may just unsubscribe from the book and catch up with it on the wiki.

I'm in a similar situation with the art, it feels cluttered as you said, and not as clear as I'd like to see. it's not bad, but it feels...unrefined
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:17 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I don't know.....compared from Issue #1 to this......the art style is just cluttered, there's no better word for it. There's too much crammed into every panel, too much going on to follow the narrative without multiple re-readings, etc. If it continues this way, I may just unsubscribe from the book and catch up with it on the wiki.

I'm in a similar situation with the art, it feels cluttered as you said, and not as clear as I'd like to see. it's not bad, but it feels...unrefined


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Review of IDW Optimus Prime #2

Postby Va'al » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:42 am

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NEW CYBERTRON! A massive corkscrew-shaped space ship has drilled into Earth, bringing with it a surprising disruption to OPTIMUS PRIME’s plans. Meanwhile—ARCEE fields a dangerous offer that may be too good to resist!

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also, cameos and digs


Story

A giant corkscrew spaceship lands in the Alps. Robots with apparently, arguably, perhaps not some screws loose pop out of it. Hilarity and hijinks (your mileage may vary) ensue. And we bring back a lot of loose threads from a long, long, long time ago in this new issue of Optimus Prime. Resolutions? No, just dangling. Like bait.

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What I really enjoy about the two new characters we encounter - Junkions Rum-Maj and Wreck-Gar - is that while the latter carries across a lot of his canonical characterisation, they both also sport some sinister undertones to their easily dismissed comedy relief. Much like charming cannibalistic psychologists, perhaps, but with Eric Idle's voice stuck in your head.

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A point of contention, elsewhere at least, is the inclusion of GI Joe teams in the book. But this is the status of the universe, and the book does some more steps towards acknowledging the wider status of it all. Not just American settings, not just American teams, not just Americans. This feels part of that pseudo-post-colonial shift that started way back when with the colonies being rediscovered.

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John Barber is doing pretty much what he wants, now that he no longer has the editorial shackles, and he can delve into older Transformers universe, both within and outside of IDW's. This is some entertaining, and successfully so, storytelling with good characters.

Art

I'll admit, I echoed some sentiments I've seen around about Kei Zama's art in this starting to look a bit more cluttered than the first issue, covers or fan art. My initial worries, however, did not last long. There may be a couple of panels which sport heavier inks (or feel that way) but they never jar with the spot-on designs and backgrounds.

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That is also thanks to Josh Burcham's colour wizardry, marrying the dark linework of Zama's layouts with his muted (yet somehow still vibrant - see? wizard) palette; I could not have thought of a better choice of team for any selection of Junkions. Where there might've been the risk of too dark, colours light it up. Done.

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or don't, but still works


The fears I had about the art were also a little in the lettering, as lots of dialogue means lots of ballooning, means a lot of stuff in the same panel - but I should've trusted Tom B. Long, of course. Both dialogue and sound effects work, and Wreck-Gar's speech pattern is well conveyed visually too. As for covers, we've seen the main Zama/Burcham one, and I spotlighted the Casey Coller/Joana Lafuente variant in the preview. We also have another Zoner piece, featuring Arcee, and thumbnailed with this review, the Andrew Griffith/Josh Perez Rum-Maj centrepiece. Admire them all.


Thoughts
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The issue is, overall, thoroughly enjoyable, much more than I initially feared I would feel about the book, from the preview. My biggest misgivings were not about the story as much as the art - as I explain above - but they were easily assuaged once you take in the whole story. There is no clutter. There is no lasting distraction.

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What else does it bring, as well as ensuring that the mythos goes forward? Re-evaluation of both Primacy and Monstrosity, old Spotlights and -ations, Budiansky references, G1 references, early days of IDW's Robots in Disguise, i.e. Barber's best output. Until now. This is a series worth keeping at hand and in mind, and it does an excellent job of using those references as complementary, not essential.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby jasonwilty » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:15 am

Loving the story, but the art is still killing me.

I have trouble telling what's going on one panel to the next.

Not feeling this at all.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:11 am

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Have to say, I did enjoy Issue 2 a lot more than 1. I dunno, something about the first issue felt a bit... off, but this one is right back on track and it's already very entertaining imo.
But yeah, the art is... hm. It's more a personal hurdle for me; not that in terms of quality there's anything wrong with the style, but it's just not to my tastes so it does get in the way a little for me. Just a bit too gritty for my tastes, and maybe a bit too gritty for the story.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:37 pm

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Va'al wrote:
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Bounti76 wrote:I don't know.....compared from Issue #1 to this......the art style is just cluttered, there's no better word for it. There's too much crammed into every panel, too much going on to follow the narrative without multiple re-readings, etc. If it continues this way, I may just unsubscribe from the book and catch up with it on the wiki.

I'm in a similar situation with the art, it feels cluttered as you said, and not as clear as I'd like to see. it's not bad, but it feels...unrefined


Disagree, review coming up soon. :-D

You are right about it clearing up as is went, just wish that first part wasn't as clutteredish
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Tigertrack » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:00 pm

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I'm enjoying the flashback episodes more. Learning about Jetfire, and Prowl, and others. Jetfire seems so different now. I think solicits have somewhat let the cat out of the bag with the Junkions, but I'm sure there is more of a twist than seems present by those previews and covers.

I'm good with the art. It's not my total favorite, but it works. GI Joe in it took me back a step... I'm not sure I'm ready for every issue to be a GI Joe and Transformers X crossover now. Well, at least Lost Light is still safe from that.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:21 pm

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No, it's not the art bothering me, it's the horrible colouring. How can anyone call that good? If I hadn't committed to buying #1-6, I'd be out already.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:09 pm

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The art in this book is awesome. Must be the G2 fan in me. It's like having a refined Geoff Senior at the helm. Plus I think Barber's stories tend to work better with a unique visual identity about them. He jumps from super serious to super not often, so it helps me with those transitions better than Griffith's (very good, mind you) cleaner style did in that regard. I mean, how can you not love that last page? Soo good.

On another note, does Shockwave being in the flashback Battle of Junkion panel imply to anyone else that there was a regenesis ore there? That might be a known fact already, I just don't remember Primacy and Monstrosity well.

Tigertrack wrote:GI Joe in it took me back a step... I'm not sure I'm ready for every issue to be a GI Joe and Transformers X crossover now. Well, at least Lost Light is still safe from that.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:00 pm

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I'm finding it entertaining that Jones, TC, and Buster were all on vacation together, and TC was wearing a purple visor to boot!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:30 am

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Nik Hero wrote:No, it's not the art bothering me, it's the horrible colouring. How can anyone call that good? If I hadn't committed to buying #1-6, I'd be out already.


How can you not? Could you expand on your critique, please?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:58 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm finding it entertaining that Jones, TC, and Buster were all on vacation together, and TC was wearing a purple visor to boot!

Argh, how could I have forgot about that?! Not to put down the rest of the comic but that was one of my favourite parts; I love Thundercracker - and Jones, honestly - so it's nice seeing them and the dog get what is essentially paid leave.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby partholon » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:39 am

yeah im in the same camp too.

ive loved most of barbers work over the years and its great to see him seems to bring back ideas like primal apostiaphis (or however you spell that :) ) , which hasnt been seen since last stand of the wreckers.

its an idea that works so well with the current "prime as space jesus" trope.

but the art is killing me.

its not BAD, in fact in areas it kinda remindes me of a less clear geoff senior (sans his dynamism)

but its WAAAAAY to G2 for my liking. i never like that style and it doesnt help that the whole change feels like a forced "reboot" ala AHM. Albeit without the loss of story quality.

like others it just looks too damn cluttterd and TBH at time i cant figure out WTF im looking at. compared to the sterling work of andrew griffith its just not up to scratch IMO.

WORSE i remember when griffith was getting his feet and ive a horrible feeling were right back to square one with this new lad and he'll be got shot of too just as he's hitting a stride.

basically i blame the dynamics of the comics business for shafting a team that was already doing the business for a cheap No 1 boost.

i'll stick with it for the first arc but TBH "jumping on points " make great jumping OFF points and im in two minds as to keep going.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Shot Put » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:17 pm

partholon wrote:basically i blame the dynamics of the comics business for shafting a team that was already doing the business for a cheap No 1 boost.


That's not how it happened. Griffith has said that he was burnt out on Transformers after almost five years straight of doing it and wanted to work on other stuff.
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iTunes Preview for IDW Optimus Prime 3

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:34 am

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Re: iTunes Preview for Transformers Optimus Prime 3

Postby Deadput » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:39 pm

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Am I the only one who really really likes with how Soundwave's character is being used right now?


It's a more realistic and less drastic turn then what Megatron did with Soundwave being forced to work with Prime but slowly becoming actual friends with him.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:42 pm

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Barber's Soundwave is becoming one of the best. Has really stood out as well done since RiD 20-ish and just gets better.

I also really like how he's got a rub sign in the flashback and a full on Decepticon badge in the present day scenes.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:14 am

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Agreed to both. This Soundwave is probably the best one we've ever had. He's brilliant
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:42 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Agreed to both. This Soundwave is probably the best one we've ever had. He's brilliant
Well, don't forget Cybertron's Garry Chalk Soundwave who was a mid-00s raver. We'll always have that and the world is better for it.
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IDW Optimus Prime #3 Full Preview

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:05 pm

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Newsarama has posted the full preview for Optimus Prime #3 which continues the present story of the Junkions and the past story of police corruption. It also shows off the first meeting of Soundwave and Optimus Prime, at the time Orion Pax. Check out the preview below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

The first meeting of Optimus Prime and Soundwave, revealed in a preview of next week's Optimus Prime #3.

Optimus Prime #3
John Barber (w) • Kei Zama (a & c)
An uneasy peace between Optimus Prime and the newly arrived Junkions is threatened by Soundwave’s discovery within their massive ship…
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
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