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News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:28 am

I expect figure fudging.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:30 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder, if the actual total gets close enough (like within 500), if Hasbro won't fudge the numbers to get it up to 8000 and get it made. It's hard to walk away from $4.5 mil when it's that close. Even though if they did bump the numbers up, in reality it would be closer to 4 million than 4.5. Still, that's a big pile of scratch. Or, they could just straight up come out with it and say "you know what? We're 500 short but we love our fans and we'll make it anyway!" Would that make them look ballsy or ridiculous?

Honestly, I'd love if the REAL objective was 7000 and the 8K mark was just an overinflated number to give a feel of urgency. Unicron would most likely be made then.
However if that were the case, this would send the message for any future Haslab projects that the announced target is not real. Thus causing even more inflated numbers and/or less people backing.

So in truth, they should stick it to 8K. Not 7999. 8000. But let's be honest. If the numbers are that close at the end, I'm pretty sure Mr Hasbro will open his wallet and order some for himself.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:22 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder, if the actual total gets close enough (like within 500), if Hasbro won't fudge the numbers to get it up to 8000 and get it made. It's hard to walk away from $4.5 mil when it's that close. Even though if they did bump the numbers up, in reality it would be closer to 4 million than 4.5. Still, that's a big pile of scratch. Or, they could just straight up come out with it and say "you know what? We're 500 short but we love our fans and we'll make it anyway!" Would that make them look ballsy or ridiculous?

Depends on how much profit margins they are making off of Haslab, and how badly they need and/or want it to continue.

Fans do not figure into the equation.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:53 am

How many orders were made at the beginning from just their showing off Unicron at SDCC?

Perhaps NYCC might offer the same numbers if there's something more shown off about it there.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:07 am

I'm gonna hope that there are enough numbers at the etailers to make up the difference over Hasbro fudgign the numbers. I'm still totally down to own this version of Unicron.

I still think the biggest flaw in Hasbro's plan is announcing so many exclusives and high priced items all at once. Seekers, Reflectors, MPs, cassettes, Studio Devestator, Pirranacon, Jetfire, Omega Supreme ... there's just so much all catering to the same sort of fans (except, maybe, Studio Devestator although in a different time I'd be very into that). I think it'd have done better in a time where there was a TF movie out and there wasn't as much catering to the CHUG crowd.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:09 am

That’s a good point it’s something I keep thinking about too. That weekend will have so much fan energy and buzz going with people having saved up for events like this.

5693.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:50 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm gonna hope that there are enough numbers at the etailers to make up the difference over Hasbro fudgign the numbers. I'm still totally down to own this version of Unicron.

I still think the biggest flaw in Hasbro's plan is announcing so many exclusives and high priced items all at once. Seekers, Reflectors, MPs, cassettes, Studio Devestator, Pirranacon, Jetfire, Omega Supreme ... there's just so much all catering to the same sort of fans (except, maybe, Studio Devestator although in a different time I'd be very into that). I think it'd have done better in a time where there was a TF movie out and there wasn't as much catering to the CHUG crowd.

I’ve gotta agree it’s all super awesome stuff but it’s all at once and not cheap.

I’m curious if placing Unicron to a window with fewer high priced items would have made this play out differently. I mean logic dictates it would have. Gah it’s all super cool stuff though. How the hell am I complaining about too much cool stuff :lol:

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:05 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:09 pm

Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

Look like many like me decided to back away, not so sure about that over 600/700$US giant toy.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:29 pm

It's really depressing that the numbers have decreased. they have about found their limit prior to NYCC

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:45 am

Counterpunch wrote:
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Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:18 am

https://www.facebook.com/transformers/photos/a.153259298077606/3002533233150184/

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:47 am

Geez, one photo? 8-|

Real good effort to drum up some last minute hype there, guys.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:53 am

Silly Unicron. Food is for eating, not for standing on while doing the Carlton dance.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:27 pm

Sabrblade wrote: Carlton dance.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:46 pm

Honestly, if this thing fails, it is going to be because Hasbro tripped over their own feet repeatedly. Not enough advertising. Too high of a price. This is very unfortunate, because this is a toy I have wanted since I was four years old.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:46 pm

Crosscheck wrote:Too high of a price.

No it's not. Considering how much is involved in this lump of plastic it really is justifiable.

Where they failed money wise was expecting cash up front with short notice.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:55 pm

Burn wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:Too high of a price.

No it's not. Considering how much is involved in this lump of plastic it really is justifiable.

Highly debatable, or maybe same term being used for different meanings. I see nothing about this figure that is worth $600 dollars, but others do. So, is it worth it or not? Depends on the individual consumer in question.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:08 pm

Price aside, what would really mean the death of this project was to not simply made the thing available worldwide to back. We live in a global age with so many stores able to ship internationally without issue. Hasbro refusing to go the extra mile will mean this Unicron's downfall.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:10 pm

This Allsparker's post expresses my sentiments about the deco almost exactly (click the pic for full size):

I wish the colors looked more like this.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:37 am

hasbro pulse just updated their splash page to put unicron back on top. its the pic of him eating galvatron again. Whats different this time is that the banner claims unicron weighs 19 lbs

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:50 am

Ironhidensh wrote:
Burn wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:Too high of a price.

No it's not. Considering how much is involved in this lump of plastic it really is justifiable.

Highly debatable, or maybe same term being used for different meanings. I see nothing about this figure that is worth $600 dollars, but others do. So, is it worth it or not? Depends on the individual consumer in question.

I think you are onto something. I see the price as correct based on previous toys and their prices, but at the same time, too high for me personally.

If we use the titans at $160 retail as a baseline, then really, the amount of additional material and additional functions/details and a much more complex transformation does really translate/scale upwards where $600 does seem to be about right.

At the same time, for me personally, $600 on a single figure that I likely wouldn't play with nearly as much as the titans I have or the more expensive combiners is just too much. I love the design and am glad Hasbro is trying to do something this big for collectors, but it just isn't right for me with price being the main factor.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:24 am

Counterpunch wrote:
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Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 219 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:11 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
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Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 219 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

Is all that overquoting really necessary?

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:13 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:At the moment of posting this, approximately 134 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 141 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 150 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 160 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 170 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 187 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 201 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

At the moment of posting this, approximately 219 new backers per day are required to reach the goal.

Is all that overquoting really necessary?