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I think the initial first wave of support has passed. As long as there is a pretty steady stream daily, I look forward to this funding. The good thing is there will probably be upticks around the 1st of September, then again in Oct, as some people get paid monthly. Probably other periodic upticks weekly/bi-weekly.

I haven't seen any partner site links yet. Does anyone recall with Unicron, did they add those backer numbers pretty early on or did they wait a while?

Also, I asked a while back (and perhaps we just don't know)...Does anyone know what an average run is for a basic retail figure? Lets say Kingdom Rodimus Prime just for grins. How many do we think Hasbro/TT produced for the whole world market, 50K?

o.supreme wrote:Also, I asked a while back (and perhaps we just don't know)...Does anyone know what an average run is for a basic retail figure? Lets say Kingdom Rodimus Prime just for grins. How many do we think Hasbro/TT produced for the whole world market, 50K?

We don't know what the run of figures are.

Also, the participating retailers in this campaign only add their numbers later. Galactus' were added near the end of the campaign where the number of backers doubled.

Emerje wrote:They did say in the video that the design is far from final and they'll be tweaking things as they go much like we saw them do with Unicron (all the way up to release for better or worse).

Emerje

I watched the video for the first time yesterday and the cleanly shaven designer said the opposite. He said "a few details here and there will probably change a little bit as we move forward but nothing too significant". That means the design itself is mostly final, anyone expecting more than what they see will be dissapointed.

Zavvi has it listed for a few European countries. France, Germany, and Spain I think.

https://www.zavvi.ie/brands/hasbro/hasl ... saber.list

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We hank fellow Seibertronian Fiddlerundone and Burn for letting us know of the other places in the world where the Transformers Haslab Generations Victory Saber can be ordered. There are now several places covering different continents. There will be more and they will probably pop up in our sponsor news posts this week and the next so keep an eye out for those too. If you do not see your country listed below, check the Zaavi site or the robotkingdom site to see if they ship to yours since the list below is far from exhaustive and those two retailers ship worldwide.

New Zealand: EB Games New Zealand for $369 NZ. $100 deposit.

Australia: EB Games Australia for $369 AUD. $10 deposit.

Many countries in Europe and the rest of the world are being covered by Zaavi for 209,99 €, check the site for your specific country but here are France and Ireland as examples:
France
Ireland

If you are in Asia, you can get it through Robot Kingdom which will even ship it free to those in Hong Kong and Macau. Price is identical to Hasbro Pulse but there is a $50 non refundable deposit. They also ship worthwhile.

And once again if you live in the US, UK or Canada, then Hasbro Pulse is the place to be.

Man, writing Saber that was and not as Sabre is really making me twitch.

So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders. I honestly don't see any way for Star Saber to fail at this point

i bought unicron but will be sitting this one out. it could look much cooler but it does not.

Autobot N wrote:So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders. I honestly don't see any way for Star Saber to fail at this point

I can kinda see how it could fail, but honestly I'm starting to feel confident in it's chances of at least getting funded, if not unlocking all the tiers.

Personally, I'm hoping we get tier 1, and they reveal that the next tier is Star Saber's shield which can act as a flight stand, and maybe throw in a similar stand for Victory Leo so that the Victory Saber jet mode (or whatever it's actually called) can be in flight. Maybe if HasTak are feeling generous they could also throw in a stand for Saber's jet mode so we could have a display that looks like the three jets are in the process of combining

Autobot N wrote:So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders.

I count too

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders. I honestly don't see any way for Star Saber to fail at this point

I can kinda see how it could fail, but honestly I'm starting to feel confident in it's chances of at least getting funded, if not unlocking all the tiers.

The main thing I'm thinking of is the fact that we haven't got international orders or orders from other carriers, and yet Star Saber is almost 50% fulfilled with just the countries where he's extremely obscure. I assume we'll get a huge boom once Japanese orders come in.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders.

I count too

Huh, I thought Pulse was only in the US and UK

Pulse Availability:
We are currently shipping to all U.S. States, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, APO/FPO addresses and Canada. Please note we cannot ship to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Pulse UK Availability:
We deliver to most addresses in the United Kingdom. Please note we cannot deliver to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Just curious, I noticed a while back, Pulse was not allowing shipping on some items to Quebec. Is that still an issue? I hope not.

o.supreme wrote:Pulse Availability:
We are currently shipping to all U.S. States, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, APO/FPO addresses and Canada. Please note we cannot ship to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Pulse UK Availability:
We deliver to most addresses in the United Kingdom. Please note we cannot deliver to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Just curious, I noticed a while back, Pulse was not allowing shipping on some items to Quebec. Is that still an issue? I hope not.

I'm guessing so, but will depend on the item and whether they have the product information in French or not. Kanrabat might be the best resource there as I believe he is in Quebec. I know he mentioned being able to back Victory Saber, so it doesn't looks like an issue here, but I seem to recall the Centurion Drone set was one of those without French and couldn't be shipped to Quebec.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Pulse Availability:
We are currently shipping to all U.S. States, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, APO/FPO addresses and Canada. Please note we cannot ship to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Pulse UK Availability:
We deliver to most addresses in the United Kingdom. Please note we cannot deliver to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Just curious, I noticed a while back, Pulse was not allowing shipping on some items to Quebec. Is that still an issue? I hope not.

I'm guessing so, but will depend on the item and whether they have the product information in French or not. Kanrabat might be the best resource there as I believe he is in Quebec. I know he mentioned being able to back Victory Saber, so it doesn't looks like an issue here, but I seem to recall the Centurion Drone set was one of those without French and couldn't be shipped to Quebec.

Yup, the problem still persists on some items. Always depends on whether or not there is French on the box.

Autobot N wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:So we're at 4723 in 3 days from just US and UK orders. I honestly don't see any way for Star Saber to fail at this point

I can kinda see how it could fail, but honestly I'm starting to feel confident in it's chances of at least getting funded, if not unlocking all the tiers.

The main thing I'm thinking of is the fact that we haven't got international orders or orders from other carriers, and yet Star Saber is almost 50% fulfilled with just the countries where he's extremely obscure. I assume we'll get a huge boom once Japanese orders come in.

Right, but I'm also worried about if the vendors for the other countries charge too much. So for instance, when Takara gets it, what if they look at it and go "You want to fund Victory Saber? $350 USD!" making the Japanese fans that would have bit at $180 USD decide against backing it, thus robbing it of the anticipated backing boom that we'd assume would come from Japan?

I think it's incredibly unlikely Takara would screw their customers over that badly, but other companies that HasTak might partner with for other countries might try it to see if they can. Like I said, I'm fairly confident Victory Saber should be coming, but I can also see where it might fail in other countries

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I read the IDW comics and loved them and the only time I remember black shadow is from the Megatron origin story and even then I am told that wasn't black shadow. Couldn't even say when he was in a badass scene as one of Megatron's top guys. So I really don't know him from there then at all. I just picked up the TR toy because it looked great. Still love him.

In MTMTE he was a Phase Sixer that beat up Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus at the same time. Killed hundreds of Autobots that day.

What issue? Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime".
Sounds like Black Shadow was only a mentioned in flashback then, and never part of the main story.

Anyways, Hasbro said there would be more partner sites for Victory Sabre coming out this week. Have any of you seen them? I'd like to write an article linking to all the different campaigns so that anyone in the world can know where to get one, all in one article.

Also, while I do think we'll get that first Tier, that canon is definitely key to the toy. Would be a huge shame for it not to be made. I would have rather it just be included and not have tiers, but I guess tiers are part of the deal with crowd funded things.

IDW Optimus Prime didnt actually die in "Death of Optimus Prime". He just started going by Orion Pax again and went into semi-exile. He was in MTMtE in flashbacks and current time.

This Victory Saber does look sweet and I will more than likely back it. Although I do think hollow weapons, arms and such shouldnt be on something like this. I went back and forth with backing Unicron the whole time and greatly regret not doing it. So I dont think I can pass this up.

Moonshot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I read the IDW comics and loved them and the only time I remember black shadow is from the Megatron origin story and even then I am told that wasn't black shadow. Couldn't even say when he was in a badass scene as one of Megatron's top guys. So I really don't know him from there then at all. I just picked up the TR toy because it looked great. Still love him.

In MTMTE he was a Phase Sixer that beat up Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus at the same time. Killed hundreds of Autobots that day.

What issue? Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime".
Sounds like Black Shadow was only a mentioned in flashback then, and never part of the main story.

Anyways, Hasbro said there would be more partner sites for Victory Sabre coming out this week. Have any of you seen them? I'd like to write an article linking to all the different campaigns so that anyone in the world can know where to get one, all in one article.

Also, while I do think we'll get that first Tier, that canon is definitely key to the toy. Would be a huge shame for it not to be made. I would have rather it just be included and not have tiers, but I guess tiers are part of the deal with crowd funded things.

IDW Optimus Prime didnt actually die in "Death of Optimus Prime".

When did I say he did?

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Pulse Availability:
We are currently shipping to all U.S. States, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, APO/FPO addresses and Canada. Please note we cannot ship to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Pulse UK Availability:
We deliver to most addresses in the United Kingdom. Please note we cannot deliver to a P.O. Box or any other country at this time.

Just curious, I noticed a while back, Pulse was not allowing shipping on some items to Quebec. Is that still an issue? I hope not.

I'm guessing so, but will depend on the item and whether they have the product information in French or not. Kanrabat might be the best resource there as I believe he is in Quebec. I know he mentioned being able to back Victory Saber, so it doesn't looks like an issue here, but I seem to recall the Centurion Drone set was one of those without French and couldn't be shipped to Quebec.

So far, it's only an issue with Toys R Us. Pulse will ship to Québec anything without any issue, if you conveniently ignore the base 25$US in shipping price for anything (titan or deluxe). That Centurion set was DAMN expensive to get but I got it. That's why Will and I team up for Agent Ravage to save on shipping.

I'm backing Victory Saber because that's something that I always wanted and the overall price is reasonable. I was backing Unicron but I chickened out some weeks later because that price was WAY too steep for something I only kinda wanted.

Now, if only Toys R Us would remove that stick up their ass and ship to Quebec whatever. Because so far, they are the ONLY ones that care about that language law. They also enforce that completely randomly because that exclusive GI Joe Baroness with Cobra Coil set was shippable to Québec despite the box having ZERO French on it. (I also learned of it's existence way too late...)

Makes sense. I am glad you are able to order most things. Everyone who wants this Haslab should be able to get it. I know that's not the reality of the world and it sucks. Hopefully enough retail partners will join in to cover as much of the globe as possible.

I really was in no financial position to fund Unicron during the time it was on Haslab. But even if I could afford it, like you said...did I really want it? Or was it just the novelty of owning something That BIG? I have no remorse, I made the right decision. I would have no place for it even if I did buy it.

I know MANY people have had a tough time during the pandemic, and I in no way make light of them. Oddly enough however, my financial situation has improved in the last year. (Before the Pandemic, spring/summer of 2019 had such things as me getting laid off, my wife being diagnosed with cancer, and only days away from being homeless), so yeah, it's ben quite a turnaround to meet all those challenges and beat them, none of the credit for that goes to me though.

But yeah, Victory Saber is a character I've wanted in some form for a VERY long time. I owned an Original Optimus, Rodimus, Fortress Maximus, God Ginrai, and a re-issue Star Convoy, but never Star saber or Dai Atlas.

Now I have Generations updates of All of those, except Star Saber (and regrettably Star Convoy. I know it is just a PotP retool, but without the hindsight of Super Megatorn, I do regret missing out on that).

But I will not miss out on this Victory Saber Set.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I think it's incredibly unlikely Takara would screw their customers over that badly, but other companies that HasTak might partner with for other countries might try it to see if they can. Like I said, I'm fairly confident Victory Saber should be coming, but I can also see where it might fail in other countries

Zaavi and Robot Kingdom ship worldwide and Robot Kingdom is the exact same price as Pulse. So if your local distribution channel is too expensive, you can always get it from those (shipping will be pricier though).

o.supreme wrote: But even if I could afford it, like you said...did I really want it? Or was it just the novelty of owning something That BIG? I have no remorse, I made the right decision. I would have no place for it even if I did buy it.
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But I will not miss out on this Victory Saber Set.

Those are my exact feelings on both matters.

Hey, just a question but the "jet trailer" that becomes most of Star Sabre's body doesn't really have an alt mode by itself right? It's just the trailer to the smaller jet?

william-james88 wrote:Hey, just a question but the "jet trailer" that becomes most of Star Sabre's body doesn't really have an alt mode by itself right? It's just the trailer to the smaller jet?

The V-Star? He rides it.



The original toy had a base mode, but it was just a flying chariot and super mode in the show.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hey, just a question but the "jet trailer" that becomes most of Star Sabre's body doesn't really have an alt mode by itself right? It's just the trailer to the smaller jet?

The V-Star? He rides it.



The original toy had a base mode, but it was just a flying chariot and super mode in the show.

Cool thanks

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hey, just a question but the "jet trailer" that becomes most of Star Sabre's body doesn't really have an alt mode by itself right? It's just the trailer to the smaller jet?

The V-Star? He rides it.



The original toy had a base mode, but it was just a flying chariot and super mode in the show.

Cool thanks

The MP can also do the base mode, unofficially.

william-james88 wrote:

Moonshot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I read the IDW comics and loved them and the only time I remember black shadow is from the Megatron origin story and even then I am told that wasn't black shadow. Couldn't even say when he was in a badass scene as one of Megatron's top guys. So I really don't know him from there then at all. I just picked up the TR toy because it looked great. Still love him.

In MTMTE he was a Phase Sixer that beat up Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus at the same time. Killed hundreds of Autobots that day.

What issue? Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime".
Sounds like Black Shadow was only a mentioned in flashback then, and never part of the main story.

Anyways, Hasbro said there would be more partner sites for Victory Sabre coming out this week. Have any of you seen them? I'd like to write an article linking to all the different campaigns so that anyone in the world can know where to get one, all in one article.

Also, while I do think we'll get that first Tier, that canon is definitely key to the toy. Would be a huge shame for it not to be made. I would have rather it just be included and not have tiers, but I guess tiers are part of the deal with crowd funded things.

DW Optimus Prime didnt actually die in "Death of Optimus Prime". He just started going by Orion Pax again and went into semi-exile. He was in MTMtE in flashbacks and current time.

When did I say he did?

It sure seemed to me u were eluding to that here(also bold above); "Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime"."

However, I never said u did say he died. Just in case u or someone reading it took what u said the same as I did, I thought I would clear it up. What did u mean then if not Optimus had died and that was why he wasnt in MTMtE?

Moonshot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Moonshot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I read the IDW comics and loved them and the only time I remember black shadow is from the Megatron origin story and even then I am told that wasn't black shadow. Couldn't even say when he was in a badass scene as one of Megatron's top guys. So I really don't know him from there then at all. I just picked up the TR toy because it looked great. Still love him.

In MTMTE he was a Phase Sixer that beat up Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus at the same time. Killed hundreds of Autobots that day.

What issue? Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime".
Sounds like Black Shadow was only a mentioned in flashback then, and never part of the main story.

Anyways, Hasbro said there would be more partner sites for Victory Sabre coming out this week. Have any of you seen them? I'd like to write an article linking to all the different campaigns so that anyone in the world can know where to get one, all in one article.

Also, while I do think we'll get that first Tier, that canon is definitely key to the toy. Would be a huge shame for it not to be made. I would have rather it just be included and not have tiers, but I guess tiers are part of the deal with crowd funded things.

DW Optimus Prime didnt actually die in "Death of Optimus Prime". He just started going by Orion Pax again and went into semi-exile. He was in MTMtE in flashbacks and current time.

When did I say he did?

It sure seemed to me u were eluding to that here(also bold above); "Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime"."

However, I never said u did say he died. Just in case u or someone reading it took what u said the same as I did, I thought I would clear it up. What did u mean then if not Optimus had died and that was why he wasnt in MTMtE?

That he is recedes ro the background and no longer goes by Optimus, which is what happens in the story that I put in quotations.

So yeah, Dark Shadow's role in the Roberts comics was beyond minimal.