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Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:02 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think they would go crazy on voyagers either though. Remember devy is sold as a boxset. I doubt he will ever be sold individually



He might be! There's nothing to suggest that that's out of the question! remember....FOC Bruticus! he was sold as a box set AND individually at TRU(that's where I picked mine up from) & they were individually sold, but we just don't know yet! & at places like Comicons & online toy stores....YES you'll definitely have the option of buying him as a box set.

just don't know how TRU are going to be selling those yet as.


That's not really how it works: The FoC Combaticons were meant from the start to be sold individually. The CW Constructicons are not, as they're in a set all the time, even in general retail. Besides, there's no room for the individuals in the main line, as there's a limited number of slots per size class per year. For 2015 it's:

11 Legends
16 Deluxes
6 Voyagers

I'm expecting the same for 2016.


Well let's hope your right, although I'm still highly dubious as to whether they'll arrive at TRU in the UK(being as it's a Titan Class figure! well...Dev is!) remember what I said about Generations Metroplex not appearing at every store or place or even country!
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby steals_your_goats » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:30 pm

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So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:32 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:33 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


Isn't Bruticus no 5? haven't you been keeping up with news from BotCon?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Wolfguard » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:49 pm

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Aside from the black on the face for the bot-beard, that paint job just screams Wheelie. I thought it was him before I read "Weck-gar."

Wheelie-gar?

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby steals_your_goats » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:49 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


Wave 1: Superion
Wave 2: Menasor
Wave 3: Defensor
Wave 4: Optimus Maximus
Wave 5: Bruticus
Wave 6: Sky Reign

They said Bruticus was to be released in spring of 2016. To me spring is April/may
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby steals_your_goats » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:51 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


Isn't Bruticus no 5? haven't you been keeping up with news from BotCon?

Obviously I've been keeping Up otherwise I wouldn't have known they were being released at all. But on the Bruticus slide it said spring release
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:54 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


Wave 1: Superion
Wave 2: Menasor
Wave 3: Defensor
Wave 4: Optimus Maximus
Wave 5: Bruticus
Wave 6: Sky Reign

They said Bruticus was to be released in spring of 2016. To me spring is April/may


Doesn't matter: Bruticus is next in line after Optimus Maximus, no combiners inbetween. I should also add that releases for "Spring 2016" can come as early as Christmas.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:55 pm

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:59 pm

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So if the last wave of the year (optimaximus) for normal teams (Dev doesnt count) is going to be here (online) by, what, July; what does this mean for the rest of the year? will online retail be getting Bruticus by September or October? Will Skyreign be online by December? Or will there be a dearth of figures until they actually trickle into brick and mortar stores and Bruticus won't be available until Jan/Feb of next year?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:07 pm

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Aside from the black on the face for the bot-beard, that paint job just screams Wheelie. I thought it was him before I read "Weck-gar."

Wheelie-gar?

:shock:



Yep. To add insult to injury. :P

Seriously this thing needs to be put out of it's misery. It just looks like someone's first ever attempt at a custom figure. But even then they'd probably do a better job of making it resemble Wreck Gar some more in general paint scheme at least.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:09 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:You mean, apart from the fact that they came out ages ago and can only be gotten through alternative methods, or through expensive TT re-releases?


I got a couple of them off eBay pretty cheaply and even if they cost a bit more you're still likely getting a far superior rendition of the character to the pale imitations forced into this line.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:16 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:You mean, apart from the fact that they came out ages ago and can only be gotten through alternative methods, or through expensive TT re-releases?


I got a couple of them off eBay pretty cheaply and even if they cost a bit more you're still likely getting a far superior rendition of the character to the pale imitations forced into this line.

Admittedly having done just this at Botcon yesterday for Nightviper and BW Injector, its possible to get them off places like ebay, but that fluctuates, so it isn't always reliable. My point was that they were some of the first figures updated, so being pushed into combiner wars is at least rational. However, I stand by my point that I don't want them and would have rather gotten different/more obscure characters with cool/interesting paint jobs. (not being a G1'er I just want my figures to look cool; so I'd be down for Hound for the mold and Mirage for the solidity of the mold - one of my favorites - but they are all a little bland >:oP )
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Autobot N » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:27 pm

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Still not pleased with what they pulled on the Fan Combiner but at least now I can start over with the building of my G1 tribute characters since they appear to be releasing quite a few of the characters that I missed out on in their first go-round in Generations. What with the selection of Legends figures over the past year or two making up the mini-car line up and now the upcoming figures, they should make for quite the display. It just sucks that there will be more repaints and re-tools than the first 5 years of G1 put together. Very cheap and lazy on the part of Hasbro and it will ruin the look of a great many of these figures and probably discourage me from getting some of them.

Great job on the Shockwave figure. I'm a little disappointed that he's so small but I realize that it is quite necessary to keep him in scale with the Combiners so it is actually a brilliant thing they have done when looked at in that respect.

Why does everyone seem to think that HasTak can throw out new molds at no extra cost? If they don't use a mold several times, then they make no money off of it.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Dr. Caelus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:33 pm

Weirdness will be if they retool Sky Lynx into Transformers Prime Predaking, so that he can combine with Predacons, to make... Predaking?

Side note: Is it strange that I kind of wish Sky Lynx's combined form wasn't anthropomorphic?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby prjkt » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:44 pm

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Stuartmaximus wrote:+ I just hope that Fort Max doesn't turn out to be a heavy retool of Gen Plex! that's my worry....or even if deluxes & voyagers combine to FORM a Fort Max....that's my worry too



If you look at the outlines of Fort Max on the banner, don't those forearms look a little familiar? I think it is a Metroplex retool....

Caelus wrote:Weirdness will be if they retool Sky Lynx into Transformers Prime Predaking, so that he can combine with Predacons, to make... Predaking?

Side note: Is it strange that I kind of wish Sky Lynx's combined form wasn't anthropomorphic?
Depending on the mistransformation ability, you might be able to swing an oversized quadruped out of him
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:01 pm

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CrankyOldTruck wrote:Great job on the Shockwave figure. I'm a little disappointed that he's so small but I realize that it is quite necessary to keep him in scale with the Combiners so it is actually a brilliant thing they have done when looked at in that respect.


I'm actually impressed myself with Shockwave, although doesn't he look very FOC?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:04 pm

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CrankyOldTruck wrote:Great job on the Shockwave figure. I'm a little disappointed that he's so small but I realize that it is quite necessary to keep him in scale with the Combiners so it is actually a brilliant thing they have done when looked at in that respect.


I'm actually impressed myself with Shockwave, although doesn't he look very FOC?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby prjkt » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:06 pm

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Well FOC Shockwave was very G1 with the Torso and head, just added wings and a fatter weapon.
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

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Caelus wrote:Weirdness will be if they retool Sky Lynx into Transformers Prime Predaking, so that he can combine with Predacons, to make... Predaking?

Side note: Is it strange that I kind of wish Sky Lynx's combined form wasn't anthropomorphic?

but wouldnt this skylynx mold be better used for Hun-Grr you know CW terrorcons something to think about :-?
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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:02 pm

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Mkall wrote:Sorry Hasbro, I'm calling you out on this one.

This could have been the perfect chance to give us a Bulletbike or Override homage, but instead you make a crappy version of a toy/figure/character when there was already a pretty much perfect Wreck-Gar out there.


I wouldnt call a toy prone to breakage perfect. Also we had an amazing Onslaught (universe) but no one's complaining about the new one we got. I dont much like this Wreck Gar either due to its size but I would very much like a new one that didnt have exposed hands, that wasnt prone to breakage and that fit well together. The "perfect" one we got wasnt that perfect to me.

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ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think they would go crazy on voyagers either though. Remember devy is sold as a boxset. I doubt he will ever be sold individually



He might be! There's nothing to suggest that that's out of the question! remember....FOC Bruticus! he was sold as a box set AND individually at TRU(that's where I picked mine up from) & they were individually sold, but we just don't know yet! & at places like Comicons & online toy stores....YES you'll definitely have the option of buying him as a box set.

just don't know how TRU are going to be selling those yet as.


We do:

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Devastator is not getting an individual release for his components by Hasbro. The box set is intended for regular retail release (unlike what was the case for the examples you stated).


steals_your_goats wrote:So Sky Lynx is a combiner now and if I remember correctly his rival was Predaking. So can this almost be considered as a Predaking confirmation? Also I wonder who is going to be the wave 5 combiner. They seem to be alternating autobot and decepticon combiners, so with optimus Maximus being wave 4, it stands to reason that a decepticon combiner is next.


While it was established that there wasnt that pattern, Hasbro also has shown us that the combiners dont all share the same scale. While G1 had a bunch of combiners, only those from scramble city have been redone in the combiner wars scale of 4 deluxes and a voyager. Devastator wasnt part of that scale and thus isnt made to be anyone's rival in the line and while Predaking was made of 5 robots, He was not part of scramble city in G1 and wasnt made up of 4 smaller bots and a bigger one (they were all very big bots of the same size). If I were a betting man, I would think Predaking would end up getting a titan release eventually rather than just be another scramble city combiner since he was never that (unlike Abominus, Computron and Piranacon)

Why does everyone seem to think that HasTak can throw out new molds at no extra cost? If they don't use a mold several times, then they make no money off of it.


That last line of yours goes against a lot of what Hasbro has done in the past. Does this mean Hasbro made no money off Leader Sentinel Prime, or animated Sentinel Prime, or HFTD Leader Starscream, or DOTM Voyager Megatron, or the recent Waspinator, Scoop, Rhinox, Brainstorm, Rattrap, Generations Minicon 3 pack and on and on and on.

Caelus wrote:Weirdness will be if they retool Sky Lynx into Transformers Prime Predaking, so that he can combine with Predacons, to make... Predaking?

Side note: Is it strange that I kind of wish Sky Lynx's combined form wasn't anthropomorphic?


I think it looks weird too, though it might be better served for a LioKaiser redeco by the club (I would rather have that than a "Bludgeon combiner").

Stuartmaximus wrote:
I'm actually impressed myself with Shockwave, although doesn't he look very FOC?


I totally agree on that, thats what I thought of right away. Both seem to be cybertronian scapeship/cannon hybrids.

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby padfoo » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:09 pm

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

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Re: Hasbro Brand panel at BotCon 2015

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:45 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Taking umbrage? I've never heard that turn of phrase before. Are you trying to say Yotsuyasan is "throwing shade"?


To take umbrage means to show offense to, and or become resentful and/or angry towards a differing opinon.


Pretty sure he was making a joke.
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