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Skowl wrote:holy crap, what a beautiful toy!

The transformation is awesome, the detailing is exquisite and the whole thing just looks so great! So accurate this time around, I'm amazed - the designers are doing a brilliant job on the movie characters this time around! He looks to be really poseable too, which is great!

My only complaint is that's he's too small. I would have loved for this mold to be in the Leader-class size.

Don't count it out just yet. I'm expecting Leader class figures for Prime (obviously) Starscream and The Fallen. Only time and maybe the NYCC will be able to tell us.

"Bandwith exceeded" yeah once again im late to the party. Guess ill try again later.

The jet mode is a HUGE improvement. The robot mode looks little less poseable, but it's still cool. I'll definaetly get this

Megatron_Wolf wrote:"Bandwith exceeded" yeah once again im late to the party. Guess ill try again later.

Try this for the gallery or this for the youtube.com video review!

Watched Peaugh's review...STILL think it looks craptacular and I'm actually blown away at how many people thinks this garbage looks good...The only thing I can say for it is that is has a pretty cool transformation...But it transforms from a horrid looking jet (that for some reason has giant hands sticking out of the back) into an even more horrid looking robot...

Interesting transformation...and you're not stuck with the missiles coming out of his backside so that's a plus as well.

How exactly did he get this toy?

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mesh wrote:i can't see the pics
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Here:

alldarker wrote:

Megatron_Wolf wrote:"Bandwith exceeded" yeah once again im late to the party. Guess ill try again later.

Try this for the gallery or this for the youtube.com video review!

I think its a good improvement form the last one. No to say the last one didn;t actually grow on me. He still has some flaws, but far far less than the other one.

Pros:
He's got hands, yes freaking hands.
Very cool Transformation. The entire thing just breaks in half and swivels around and pegs together. Its a very cool piece of toy engineering.
Plane mode actually looks very nice, no legs or bulky under carriage.
Loving the Landing Gear.
The Mech Alive gimmick on the chest is very cool.
Head looks really menacing.

Cons:
Legs look scrawny.
Don't really like the tribal markings on him.
And again with the light tan color. Really why can't they make it nice and silver from the get go.


Overall he looks quite nice. But I think I'll wait for the inevitable repaint into Thundercracker or something. But I got to give it to Hasbro's designers they did a outstanding job of improving what was a below average mold. And comming up with this new transformaton scheme, while retaining he overall look of the character.

Very nice.

typh0id wrote:Watched Peaugh's review...STILL think it looks craptacular and I'm actually blown away at how many people thinks this garbage looks good...The only thing I can say for it is that is has a pretty cool transformation...But it transforms from a horrid looking jet (that for some reason has giant hands sticking out of the back) into an even more horrid looking robot...

I have tried, but I don't think I'm ever going to understand it.
The people liking the robot modes of Starscream, that new Constructicon, the new Jetfire (UUUGH), the Fallen or most of these movie characters... mindblowing. Truly.

What are they seeing that I'm not?
What are they not seeing that I am?
Everyone has different tastes, sure, but it bugs me when I can't look at someone with a differing view and go, "Ok, I kinda' see it. They like THIS because of THIS."

I can't do that here... and that's frustrating. If something's not pretty, or functionally credible or full of character... what is the draw?
Confusing... I see a toy and I go, "What would have to be changed to make this toy cooler? What points about this figure could be changed to make it worse?"
It's like, after years of toy buying, I have things set in my head, things by which I can say a toy is "bad". Plastic quality, joint quality, balance, coloring, whether or not the robot would function right in real life (like The Fallen's limb armor banging onto each other)... and I don't think other people do that.

M'eh. Still looks like the same hulk of a mould with some minor changes. Same crappy mould IMHO. I agree with Riotflea. I just don't see what others see as something worth buying. I am still looking forward to the film though so there is that at the very least for now. At least I will save $ on not buying the movie figures.

Wow that is awesome. Im still not calling it Starscream but that is a nice remold. I was afraid that all the returning bots were going to just be repainted. I wonder who else is going to get this treatment. Id also like to thank alldarker for providing an alt link.

I consider myself VERY open-minded when it comes to these new designs, and I must say that I do actually like the Cybertronian paint job, but to be hones I'd rather take the same money and buy Wheelie...twice! I respect the views of those of you who like this toy and you folks are more than welcome to take the one I would have purchased had I been of a like mind. I'll stick with my Thundercracker and peruse e-bay for a G1 Starscream repaint of the first movie version.

alldarker wrote:

Megatron_Wolf wrote:"Bandwith exceeded" yeah once again im late to the party. Guess ill try again later.

Try this for the gallery or this for the youtube.com video review!

Thx for the links . I still dont care much for the robotmode, but I have to say that its a HUGE improvement over the first one. The plane mode looks so much better and the fact that he now has hands is great. I will buy him.

Riotflea wrote: I have tried, but I don't think I'm ever going to understand it. The people liking the robot modes of Starscream, that new Constructicon, the new Jetfire (UUUGH), the Fallen or most of these movie characters... mindblowing. Truly.

What are they seeing that I'm not?
What are they not seeing that I am?
Everyone has different tastes, sure, but it bugs me when I can't look at someone with a differing view and go, "Ok, I kinda' see it. They like THIS because of THIS."

I can't do that here... and that's frustrating. If something's not pretty, or functionally credible or full of character... what is the draw?
Confusing... I see a toy and I go, "What would have to be changed to make this toy cooler? What points about this figure could be changed to make it worse?"
It's like, after years of toy buying, I have things set in my head, things by which I can say a toy is "bad". Plastic quality, joint quality, balance, coloring, whether or not the robot would function right in real life (like The Fallen's limb armor banging onto each other)... and I don't think other people do that.

I hate to tell you (it sucked when I made the discovery) but you're getting older! Sorry to screw up your whole day.

The older we get and the more our minds fill up with "conventional wisdom", which is a load of crap and societys greatest lie, the more we forget how to look at things through the childs eyes of discovery and wonder. It gets replaced with analytical thinking, conventional standards and preconcieved notions of how things should be instead of the fanciful "what if..." approach that should be driving the human spirit. Even knowing and embracing this, I still could not bring myself to find enough qualities about this toy to warrant adding it to my "Must Have" list, although I did find that the one thing I did like about it was the feature that many others did not, and that was the Cybertronian designs on his paint scheme. Everything I disliked was looked at through more "scientific" eyes. The rear facing missles, the overall torso design, the blocky leg design and upper to lower body proportions are all just not appealing to me no matter how much I try to stay open minded. If I did get this figure, it would never see its robot mode, the missles would never get loaded and it would have to be displayed low so I could enjoy the paint apps. The logical choice for me is to let somone with fewer "conditions of ownership" enjoy the toy I would have purchased while I move on to the next thing.

Better jet mode, better arms & hands, better cannons. . . but what happened to the rest of the figure? I don't know why everyone claims this thing is "more movie accurate"? Glad I already have 2 from the 1st movie, because this piece of crap is pathetic! Really glad that one of mine is Deepspace SS--now there's an accurate 'bot mode!