Roboto750 wrote:ZoneDaiatlas wrote:Liege Evilmus wrote:I agree $150 for a knock off is insane.
I know the origional mold is broken. I also have Mirage and from what I can see, it looks good.
So my question, how about an "official" authentic, reconstruction?
No improvements('cept on the clip for the shoulder rocket), just take a old one and redo it.
That would be cool!
Why can't they make a new mold? Is it too expensive for Takara Tomy to make a new mold? We bought enough Reissue and Repaint toys from Takara Tomy that they can send their kids to College...
You know, I was thinking the exact same thing tonight! Half the work should be done for them already.
Vile MK III wrote:Tomy Takara should step in and stop these KO and release both of em them self. Now that would worth the money.
Burn wrote:Vile MK III wrote:Tomy Takara should step in and stop these KO and release both of em them self. Now that would worth the money.
For starters it's hard for TomyTakara or even Hasbro to step in and stop these KO's as they're often produced in China where there aren't many laws on copyrights for toys.
Secondly, it would be bad business for TomyTakara to produce their own genuine articles to compete with KO's.
Yes, there are collectors who will buy genuine TT over cheap knockoffs, however a company can't survive solely on collectors, they also have to target the general public, and the general public would rather pay for a cheaper item with less quality rather than shelling out extra for a genuine good quality product.
These knew KO's however with the G1 packaging are simply a bunch of, for lack of a better term, pirates, producing cheaply and selling pirated material at inflated prices.
Anyone who willingly buys them knowing all too well they're KO's and adds them to their collection as genuine articles are fools.
JBrock wrote:You are the fool for thinking that anyone adding a boxed G1 figure to his collection would pass it off as vintage. Most people that will purchase these probably don't have many if any original boxed or sealed TFs.
ZenithF0RTE wrote:Anywho, I had no idea the Mirage mold was broken. When did this happen?
JBrock wrote:You realize they are toys, right? WTF does it matter if someone wants to put a reissue or knockoff on a shelf with a vintage piece?
Money aside, it is almost impossible to find sealed vintage toys so I see no problem if a custom toy maker wants to find a niche and distribute his product to a wider fanbase.
Swerve wrote:I've actually been looking for a Mirage lately and have noticed an increase of boxed Mirage figures going for $150-$199 range on ebay. The KO's haven't hit the market yet have they? I thought nothing of it since I thought Mirage's mold was damaged and assumed that they were just real G1 figures. I'll start posting auctions for G1 boxed Mirage's in this price range when I start finding them to see if anyone can spot it as a KO.
Liege Evilmus wrote:Swerve wrote:I've actually been looking for a Mirage lately and have noticed an increase of boxed Mirage figures going for $150-$199 range on ebay. The KO's haven't hit the market yet have they? I thought nothing of it since I thought Mirage's mold was damaged and assumed that they were just real G1 figures. I'll start posting auctions for G1 boxed Mirage's in this price range when I start finding them to see if anyone can spot it as a KO.
Yeah, but thats $150-200 for something genuine not to mention vintage. There are no more new ones of what your seeing.
This is something that can be(and eventualy will be)pumped out in the thousands. I'm gonna take my chances and wait and see if it hits the odd lot, bargain, closeout stores like so many knock offs do.
Hell, same place I just found a bunch of Classics had some poor quality "Quick Change" Robot Master 2 packs for $3. Real cheap stuff, but every war needs some casualties!
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Chosen wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:i feel sorry for those people who blow over 20 dollars on fake immitations made of low quality plastic and no metal parts.
Swoop was more of a miss than a hit, but I've still yet to hear anything that significantly bad about the cassette KO reissues. It's not like these are the same thing as the nasty dollar-store nonsense that's all over the place.
And as for your other point, that's good and all, but then you get people who try to pass off knockoff parts or accessories as if they're the originals.
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