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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Stormrider » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:16 am

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Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.


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Good for you, but my pocketbook is telling me that Optimus Prime can be happy with one trailer this time. So it will be time to decide as we see these come along.


Very good for me actually :grin: All kiding aside, I would love to see even more trailers, flatbeds, tankers, whatever. When I was a kid I always wanted more trailer options for OP. I wish some one would produce a trailer for Leader Movie Prime. I know a lot of you guys prefer Prime to come trailerless, due to cost and storage when in bot mode, but I want every Prime to have a trailer.



I would be into that. No reason why Prime needs to be restricted to one trailer.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Barrelass » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:17 am

Stormrider wrote:Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.


I was thinking the same thing, lets hope it just doesn't force them to rush it to market. Hopefully they don't sacrifice any QC to get this thing into our hands faster.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Dread_Wing » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:25 am

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Stormrider wrote:Haha... Does anyone else get the feeling that the trailer announcement and pictures from BTS forced FansProject to get moving on theirs? I will be interested to see both trailers when their completed.


I was thinking the same thing, lets hope it just doesn't force them to rush it to market. Hopefully they don't sacrifice any QC to get this thing into our hands faster.


It makes sense, most collectors who want a trailer for Classics/Henkei Prime will only get one trailer. If Fansproject let BTS sell out before bringing out their version, when it came to selling their trailer the customer base would be significantly smaller.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby DevastaTTor » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:48 am

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions yet. I love their other products so hopefully they won't disappoint here.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Narc » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:11 am

Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side. :-?
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Electron » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:00 am

Nice hope it comes with stuff, and reasonabley priced

will get if can
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Stormrider » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:05 am

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Narc wrote:Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side. :-?


Don't jumped to conclusions yet. We haven't seen proper pictures yet.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Kique » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:16 am

I will wait for more pics, but I think its save to say I'll probably get it ... :grin:
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 am

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Narc wrote:Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side. :-?


That's because the mock-up is inaccurate.

G1 Prime didn't pull his trailer that closely to the cab...no semi does. Magus was the way it was because there ARE some care carriers that do that.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby TFBuyer » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:06 am

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Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers. :-?
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby decepticonjon » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:16 am

TFBuyer wrote:Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers. :-?

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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby rpetras » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:32 am

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TFBuyer wrote:Wow, now I'm almost thinking this one for Classics Prime, but the other BTS one for my Nemesis Prime.... It would be cool to have all three with different trailers. :-?

:-?
i thought the exact same thing


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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby metaphorge » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:52 am

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Narc wrote:Seeing that mock-up with classics Optimus made me realize that there seems to be little to no articulation between the cab and trailer. It just seems to sit far too forward and almost flush with the cab. I wish there was some provision for it to swing a bit to either side. :-?


That's because the mock-up is inaccurate.

G1 Prime didn't pull his trailer that closely to the cab...no semi does.


I beg to differ; not always:

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I based my estimation of how Prime would pull the trailer on the position of the "side skirting" and rear wheels of the trailer; I don't see why it would be positioned and shaped as it is if it were not meant to almost meet the "ground effects" on the cab in the same fashion as the City Commander.

Do you have access to information that would suggest otherwise, or are you also "eyeballing" it?

There's a basic engineering problem with having an articulated trailer for the Classics Op mold; unless you have a connection point that's really far back on the cab (like on the BT trailer), the trailer hits the "knees" on the cab when you try to turn. The only other possibility is to make the trailer high enough up to clear the "knees", which would lead to it looking awkward as well. I wager that FansProject is not going to go either route.

It's quite possible that the attachment point may be slightly further back on the tractor than it is in my mock-up, but I'm going to guess it will turn slightly if at all.

Counterpunch wrote:Magus was the way it was because there ARE some care carriers that do that.


The City Commander trailer is NOT a car carrier, so I'm not sure that wil have any bearing on things.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby metaphorge » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:44 am

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As you'll note, above I said "not always". I provided examples that your statement did not always hold up.

(The last photo, btw, shows a truck that is NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO ITS TRAILER, but I digress.)

We're both engaging in speculation at this point, but there are certainly real-world examples that back up the cab's placement in my mock-up is possible... I'll refrain from a tit-for-tat image posting. (Though SHAME ON YOU for citing Energon Prime as evidence of anything except bad design.) ;)

(One intersting note from looking at the toy photos you posted: G1 Prime's trailer is really out of step with reality; the connection point is way behind the strongest load-bearing point on the cab.)
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:49 am

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metaphorge wrote:We're both engaging in speculation at this point, but there are certainly real-world examples that back up the cab's placement in my mock-up is possible... I'll refrain from a tit-for-tat image posting. (Though SHAME ON YOU for citing Energon Prime as evidence of anything except bad design.) ;)

(One intersting note from looking at the toy photos you posted: G1 Prime's trailer is really out of step with reality; the connection point is way behind the strongest load-bearing point on the cab.)


I agree entirely.

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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby kirbenvost » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:03 am

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Looks very nice for sure, but I actually think I prefer the BTS one, seems to fit the more stylized look of Classics Prime.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby metaphorge » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:18 am

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Also worth stating: I still want Powermaster/Apex armor for Classics Prime....
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Hard Hacker » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:47 am

I bet people are going to sell their houses just to buy a BOX ON WHEELS just because it's more G1. I prefer the other upgrade.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Electron » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:56 am

Hard Hacker wrote:I bet people are going to their houses just to buy a BOX ON WHEELS just because it's more G1. I prefer the other upgrade.


everyone goes home i don't get it?

and yeh i love a nice G1 fan wank who doesn't kudos to fans project, i will probably get both the fp and bts one, if my wallet permits
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby nexus_rayne » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:01 am

It's a shame that voyager movie prime doesnt have a hitching point, that trailer would look amazing on him, for the classic prime, I feel the styling of the bts trailer fits better. With how nice the commander sets fit with magnus/nemesis, im just surprised that fansproject didnt put in a little more style than just a box
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby dragons » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:53 am

i dont know this one seems to plain to me to g 1 for me i have to see more pictures for me every prime has a differnt uniqe looking trailer for them no trailer is the same for each prime but this one reminds me of mp prime trailer only smaller.

i have to see more images of this one to cast my vote which i like more i like bts one its has that classic look that prime would have if they would make a series out of the figurs but fans projects it has that mp prime look to it only smaller ill have to wait & see which one i like more.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby Shadowstream » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:39 pm

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Generation 2 Optimus Prime did have that weird ass sound box to fill in the gap on the trailer bed if ya didn't really like it. Granted, the hitch location still made it a bit weird on turns, but given the actual shape of the sound box there wasn't any restriction like on the city commander upgrade set. I'm thinking maybe if this is going to be a debatable subject they could probably install either multiple hitching points or a shifting one to give variety and freedom of choice to individual taste. That's what the sound box basicly was to me... well actualy it still is :oops:
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby DevastaTTor » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:42 pm

nexus_rayne wrote:It's a shame that voyager movie prime doesnt have a hitching point, that trailer would look amazing on him, for the classic prime, I feel the styling of the bts trailer fits better. With how nice the commander sets fit with magnus/nemesis, im just surprised that fansproject didnt put in a little more style than just a box


It's pretty early to count it out just yet. I suspect the final piece will be more intricate and give us a lot of compelling reasons to consider buying it. They're just putting out these really early shots to keep people from buying the BTS one. I'm in wait-and-see mode at this point.
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Re: FansProject's Classics Prime Trailer

Postby metaphorge » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:29 am

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metaphorge wrote:We're both engaging in speculation at this point, but there are certainly real-world examples that back up the cab's placement in my mock-up is possible... I'll refrain from a tit-for-tat image posting. (Though SHAME ON YOU for citing Energon Prime as evidence of anything except bad design.) ;)

(One intersting note from looking at the toy photos you posted: G1 Prime's trailer is really out of step with reality; the connection point is way behind the strongest load-bearing point on the cab.)


I agree entirely.

Looks like we were both sort of right Boss:
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It's mounted a lot further up on the cab than the BTS trailer, but still allows partial articulation of the trailer. Looks like I underestimated how big this trailer is going to be a slight bit.

The Godbomber homage is pretty cool; it would be rad if they were also developing Powermaster/Apex armor for this mold....
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