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partholon wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Things I know:

1. If Sunstreaker is beaten down enough that he asks to be killed...**** is serious.

2. When Sunstreaker gets out of this jam. Things are going to die ala Butch in Pulp Fiction.

now thats what im looking forward to. i reckon all this is prologue for sunstreaker to have him deliver one massive smackdown. the guy came off as arrogant and egotistical in escalation but thanks to what the machinations inflicted were gonna see psycho in the payback dept soon and i for one am looking forward to it

I'd like to see Prowl or Prime be juuuuust about to stop him and then turn a blind eye and walk out of the room for the proverbial '5 minutes'.

I also hope Hunter comes out of this ready to kick the **** out of things. I can see his character getting kind of dark and Verity being his lifeline back to what humanity is all about.

who'da thunk humans in TF could actually work. let alone actually have potential

considering how furman handled verity in infiltration im really looking forward to how hunter deals with whats been done to him in and after devestation. most comic writers would just gloss over that but were talking Dr mengler territory here and in the real world people would be freaked. even someone like hunter. looking for alien robots is one thing, being turned into one in effect is quite something else so theres great scope here to develop our little band of humans

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bookofjunon wrote:

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Caelus wrote:

God Magnus wrote:

bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

I still don't see him...

you sure that's not Straxus with big glowy axe in panel 4?

Soundwave is not in the panels before at all. The sudden appearance is just ridiculous. It makes no sense.

Regardless of whom it's supposed to be, my brain will translate that guy into Soundwave so it does make sense. Or maybe Starscream just had Soundwave in his pocket.

Actually I was thinking that maybe he was carrying him in his cockpit, because they were obviously working on gettign Soundwave his minions in #3, so perhaps Soundwave was also reformatted at that point to transform, and...mass shift to a much smaller device able to fit in Starscream's cockpit.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Actually I was thinking that maybe he was carrying him in his cockpit, because they were obviously working on gettign Soundwave his minions in #3, so perhaps Soundwave was also reformatted at that point to transform, and...mass shift to a much smaller device able to fit in Starscream's cockpit.

Mass shifting take up alot of energy, as Megatron himself could only mass shift when he was powered by Ore 13...

Who knows though...

i_amtrunks wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:Actually I was thinking that maybe he was carrying him in his cockpit, because they were obviously working on gettign Soundwave his minions in #3, so perhaps Soundwave was also reformatted at that point to transform, and...mass shift to a much smaller device able to fit in Starscream's cockpit.

Mass shifting take up alot of energy, as Megatron himself could only mass shift when he was powered by Ore 13...

Who knows though...

Optimus only said in Escalation that they hadn't seen mass shifting in a long time, there was no mention of when the Transformers ran out of strong enough energy sources to do it, but this is the end of the "golden age" and the war has just begun, so it is still possible for mass shifting to be common. I really doubt though that Soundwave reformatted from a tank-type of vehicle to something the size of a cassette player before he came to Earth in the SoundWave Spotlight, besides they did let Soundwave go at the end of #3 before Starscream enacted his part of Megatron's plan because he had senator credentials since he was Ratbat's lackey in the senate.

I haven't been able to find Devastation #2 because the comic shops in my area don't order enough Transformers stuff when it first comes out

Well, I would like a proper explanation then...

Perhaps he was just 'camouflaged' as Straxus/guard then?

I agree, there is no explaination and no sign of him previously in the area, it's poor story telling.

I'm thinking it may have been part of a cut panel...

And Soundwave was a Senator's PA, so he was probably able to go wherever the hell he liked. He could've just entered the Council chambers whenever he liked.

Well that could easily be the case, it still doesn't explain how he just "I dream of Genie" his ass next to Starscream though.