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Cobotron wrote:Dust Up's head sculpt is really cool and cute. The final color layouts are so much better than that slopped on sample we saw so long ago.

My interest has gone from .5 to 5.75 in this whole package. Just have to see how the year plays out.

Well, she's apparently due at online retail next month, so... good luck with that

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomus wrote:I assume there is, but can anyone confirm that there is some way (sliding head piece, flip-up panel, etc.) that prevents the fire truck from having an exposed giant face looking backward down the ladder?

Yup, you turn her head 180 degrees and the little, new flaps sticking up next to her head in combined mode will tab together in front of her face, hiding it (just not the rest of her head )

Thanks! Can't believe I didn't make that connection.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Dust Up's head sculpt is really cool and cute. The final color layouts are so much better than that slopped on sample we saw so long ago.

My interest has gone from .5 to 5.75 in this whole package. Just have to see how the year plays out.

Well, she's apparently due at online retail next month, so... good luck with that

I thought she was due out in May?

steals_your_goats wrote:I still think I'm on the buy side on this one. She looks pretty good in hand and I like the little touches of Cybertronian writing on them. I wish there was at least one more color just to break everything up but I'll live.

Same here, maybe I'll customize mine a little and add some Highlights or something.

steals_your_goats wrote: Anyone else think that the combined modes eyes are slightly too far apart?

I noticed that too, but I'm sure it'll look better in hand.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm digging her and cannot wait to get her. And where did you get the $120 price point? I had seen $100 when she was announced, and considering that is what the G2 sets were going for, it makes sense that is her price too.

I said tax + shipping, it'll definitely add another $20 onto the $100 pricetag; I won't justify that for her

But if you wait like I do, you can find her at better prices. I never go BBTS or other sponsors that get the transformers first. I wait for other sites to pick them up where shipping is free or there are deals.

And she technically has 2 official combinations: the helicopters as arms grants her her gravity control powers, while the copters as legs give her the ability to fly

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And she technically has 2 official combinations: the helicopters as arms grants her her gravity control powers, while the copters as legs give her the ability to fly

So what abilities do the cars grant? Oh, the ability to stand or hold things, of course!

Cobotron wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:And she technically has 2 official combinations: the helicopters as arms grants her her gravity control powers, while the copters as legs give her the ability to fly

So what abilities do the cars grant? Oh, the ability to stand or hold things, of course!

It's all in the coptor twins mi amigo

And yet again, Rust Dust is on upside down. She should be attached with the motorcycle wheel pointing down.

Bounti76 wrote:And yet again, Rust Dust is on upside down. She should be attached with the motorcycle wheel pointing down.

Actually, this is correct. The way the arms of Rust Dust attach to the chestplate means this is the official transformation. If she were on with the wheel facing down, she would only hold on by a single peg rather than 3 and she would rotate freely.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:And yet again, Rust Dust is on upside down. She should be attached with the motorcycle wheel pointing down.

Actually, this is correct. The way the arms of Rust Dust attach to the chestplate means this is the official transformation. If she were on with the wheel facing down, she would only hold on by a single peg rather than 3 and she would rotate freely.

Is that due to difference in molding between Hotspot and the Voyager figure in this set?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:And yet again, Rust Dust is on upside down. She should be attached with the motorcycle wheel pointing down.

Actually, this is correct. The way the arms of Rust Dust attach to the chestplate means this is the official transformation. If she were on with the wheel facing down, she would only hold on by a single peg rather than 3 and she would rotate freely.

Is that due to difference in molding between Hotspot and the Voyager figure in this set?

No, Defensor and victorion both require the motorcycle to be placed that way.




Pretty much all the official photography and images showed it the other way, but this is how the bike actually attaches. It is due to where the arm peg holes are placed on the chestplate

Bounti76 wrote:And yet again, Rust Dust is on upside down. She should be attached with the motorcycle wheel pointing down.

Unless Victorion's chest is resculpted, Rust Dust sitting wheel down is a mistransformation, albeit one propogated by official photography and fiction. Much like Stormclash and Skyburst's reversed alt modes.

No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

GI_Sneaky wrote:No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

So you're saying we chose the color lay-out, or the heads? That's pretty weak to go laying the blame on the fans, as the professionals pretty much left out the third color in the pallet that was chosen for it...

So glad im sticking with Unite Warriors.

GI_Sneaky wrote:No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

The most of Victorion's design that was chosen by fans were the molds, the gender, and the colors. How those were implemented was all Hasbro. All professional. Point your blame the right way.

That Bot wrote:

GI_Sneaky wrote:No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

The most of Victorion's design that was chosen by fans were the molds, the gender, and the colors. How those were implemented was all Hasbro. All professional. Point your blame the right way.

Actually, I never voted, were we allowed to choose the molds, or just whether they were air or land based? Most of the things we got to choose were fiction related actually, right?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

That Bot wrote:

GI_Sneaky wrote:No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

The most of Victorion's design that was chosen by fans were the molds, the gender, and the colors. How those were implemented was all Hasbro. All professional. Point your blame the right way.

Actually, I never voted, were we allowed to choose the molds, or just whether they were air or land based? Most of the things we got to choose were fiction related actually, right?

Full details here - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fan_Built_Bot#2015_polls

Hellscream9999 wrote:

That Bot wrote:

GI_Sneaky wrote:No.

This is a clear example of why toy design should be left to the professionals and not to the fans.

I'm sorry, but this turned out to be a complete waste of a great opportunity.

The most of Victorion's design that was chosen by fans were the molds, the gender, and the colors. How those were implemented was all Hasbro. All professional. Point your blame the right way.

Actually, I never voted, were we allowed to choose the molds, or just whether they were air or land based? Most of the things we got to choose were fiction related actually, right?

We got to vote on the following:

Her gender
Her name
The molds used (actual molds, not just air/ground)
Her color scheme
Her special power (Gravity control)
Her origin ("Rust Sea" won, so while the components are from Caminus, Victorion proper was "born" in the Rust Sea in-fiction.)
Her "rival" (Galvatronus won, and while that "character" doesn't exist in the IDW Generation 1 continuity, there is a current Galvatron for her to butt heads with!)
Her attitude ("doesn't take instruction well" won, and yeah, her first forming, she's kind of a loose cannon until Windblade talks her down.)

All the actual design work using these parameters was Hasbro

I don't like the muted green. I think it looks ugly and discordant with the bright red.

I preferred the very bright red\green we had before on the prototypes.

Amelie wrote:I don't like the muted green. I think it looks ugly and discordant with the bright red.

I preferred the very bright red\green we had before on the prototypes.

I have to agree, I thought she looked great. The muted colors still look ok.

You can tell who follows the comic and who doesn't. She looks very spot on to the IDW character.

Fellow Seibertronian grimdragon2001 has spotted over on the official Transformers YouTube channel a new Designer's Desk video, featuring the soon to be released Combiner Wars Torchbearers/Victorion set! You can take a look at the embedded clip below, as toy designer John Warden discusses elements of femininity in the design, colour uniformity, and more!

Is it wrong that when John said "They're like renegades," my first thought was of the Renegade GoBot faction?

Sabrblade wrote:Is it wrong that when John said "They're like renegades," my first thought was of the Renegade GoBot faction?

Yes. You shouldn't pollute your mind with toxic waste such as GoBots. And I still think this whole thing was rigged.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Is it wrong that when John said "They're like renegades," my first thought was of the Renegade GoBot faction?

Yes. You shouldn't pollute your mind with toxic waste such as GoBots. And I still think this whole thing was rigged.

...why? Every fan vote Hasbro's done for Transformers, people cry rigged, but there's never a shred of evidence, or even a decent bit of logic supporting the hypothesis.