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Why can we not transform the gestalt arms correctly? really people

The images from Toy fair were far better and to me made her look so much better and had me more excited.

Yeahhhh, this is just a complete mess. Fan-built my aftplate. Nothing "I" voted for is in there certainly, tho 1 vote out of however many is pretty insignificant.

I just have no desire to purchase this mess of aquamarine and red.

I really do not like those hands in the least.

Otherwise I'm looking forward to having these ladies on my shelf.

AutobotAlvaron wrote:As I've noted elsewhere-

So these are re-paints and re-molds right? Did they only get new head-sculpts, or are there other differences? Did even little Groove get a new face?

I think the Groove repaint (Rust Dust) is the only one without new tooling the rest have new Heads, chests and new arms with new hands

AutobotAlvaron wrote:
If Hasbro was desperate for a familiar, strong female character, why not complete the Generations Fem-bot team with MoonRacer, FireStar, Elita-1, etc., or better yet, make us an MP Arcee? Saving money by re-tooling existing CW figures was their aim, but the result is a bit disappointing.

1: Because this is a new team not a team made of old characters that spot has already been filled by Optimus Maximus, Sky Reign and Galvatronus plus old fans would be angry with those fembots being made into a combiner.


2:What the hell is Masterpiece have to do with Combiner Wars?

Their not comparable plus Hasbro doesn't make Masterpiece that's Takara's thing Hasbro just resells them.

Glad that they've lowered the saturation of one of her two colours - seemed like a bit of a mess when the orange and aqua were equally juicy. Would've personally preferred a bright aqua paired with a dull rust, tho.

AutobotAlvaron wrote:As I've noted elsewhere-

So these are re-paints and re-molds right? Did they only get new head-sculpts, or are there other differences? Did even little Groove get a new face?

Check the wiki, between the text and pictures it answers all of your questions.

AutobotAlvaron wrote:It's not speaking "fem-bot" enough to me I guess,

Comprehensive changes to bodytype aren't in the cards for a set of retools that change heads (besides Rust Dust's), sometimes chest and arm details. Works fine without it in my eyes, since Transformers are usually somewhat abstracted from the human form.

AutobotAlvaron wrote:And Hasbro claims that we fans created this? Hmm...That makes me wonder if that is the best we fans could agree upon, or if the whole "voting" thing was a gimmick and a sales stunt. That seems likely to me, but why bother, when other already existing & yet-to-be-updated gestalt teams were available?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fan_Built_Bot Wiki's got the details on what aspects of the toy were up for voting. What do you mean by "gimmick and a sales stunt"? Yes, it was designed to engage fans and create a product that benefits from that, while restricting the design within certain parameters (mold choice, colours, the fact it's a combiner etc).

AutobotAlvaron wrote:If Hasbro was desperate for a familiar, strong female character,

They obviously weren't, since they created entirely new characters.

AutobotAlvaron wrote:why not complete the Generations Fem-bot team with MoonRacer, FireStar, Elita-1, etc., or better yet, make us an MP Arcee? Saving money by re-tooling existing CW figures was their aim, but the result is a bit disappointing.

Hopefully we'll see all of that cool stuff at some point, but I'm glad to have some new femaleformers.

BeePrime wrote:Yeahhhh, this is just a complete mess. Fan-built my aftplate. Nothing "I" voted for is in there certainly, tho 1 vote out of however many is pretty insignificant.

I just have no desire to purchase this mess of aquamarine and red.

Just because you didn't vote for some of the choices doesn't mean it's a conspiracy those that think it is are ridiculous.


There are things I voted on there the only things that I voted that didn't make it were the color and the gender.

Hoo boy, they really messed up the transformations on these gals, haven't they?

The colors look better now that they've been desaturated a bit, though they still look a little too evenly blended. The bike and fire truck look good, the cars look decent in vehicle mode, but those helicopters...

Did they only get new head-sculpts, or are there other differences?

The helicopter twins have completely different forearms. Instead of obnoxious missile pods, they have forearms that actually look like helicopter parts

I just can't see how anyone thought that was a good colour scheme. Those two main colours do not go together at all.

I'm not wholly sold, but my desire to like this more than I do makes ..well, like it more than I actually do. So am still in the 'yay!' camp!

LOL at the *dainty* hands and heeled foot pieces. I wonder if/how Perfect Effect is going to capitalize on that (maybe painted nails on the hands and open-toed shoe on the foot pieces)

Also, why did they have to put "Fan-Built" in the official title, and on the box? It's as if Hasbro is saying -"WE had nothing to do with this, if you hate it, its your own fault"

Mistransformed again for the gestalt, eh? And they really need to fix that G2 Menasor gestalt photo as well.

Looking at them in robot modes - I'm not seeing 'fembots'. Only so much you can do when they're based on pre-existing non-fem-bots....

DeathReviews wrote:Mistransformed again for the gestalt, eh? And they really need to fix that G2 Menasor gestalt photo as well.

Looking at them in robot modes - I'm not seeing 'fembots'. Only so much you can do when they're based on pre-existing non-fem-bots....

They have new heads, arms and chests which is all they need since their robots.


Not sure if your expecting curves or something the less we get of the Prime Arcee body type the better.

ShockBlade501 wrote:
The helicopter twins have completely different forearms. Instead of obnoxious missile pods, they have forearms that actually look like helicopter parts

All of them have new arms (except for the Groove redeco which has no new parts) also people who complain about the missile arms just don't get why it makes sense.


Alpha Bravo is not a rescue helicoptor since he is part of the Aerialbots which is an Autobot air force.


Blades is one of the most blood thirsty Autobots so it makes sense he would be armed.


Vortex is a Decepticon and a military chopper I should not have to explain more.

What was wrong with prime arcee?

I like the look of these gals but I have to wonder if we in the UK will ever see them

I get a listing error from Amazon.ca. It seems the listing went down almost as quickly as it went up

ZeroWolf wrote:What was wrong with prime arcee?

I like the look of these gals but I have to wonder if we in the UK will ever see them

It's not there is anything wrong with the shape itself (In my opinion of course) It's just that it's all we are getting recently with the exception of Strongarm from Rid and the Victorion members.


So just that we are clear nothing wrong with curvy (I hate typing this) but I would like to see diversity with the body shapes of fembots (also hate this term) like we do with the male ones.

o.supreme wrote:I get a listing error from Amazon.ca. It seems the listing went down almost as quickly as it went up

Same, here.

Thanks for the response RevTibe. I like TFWikki too, and use it a a resource, but I do like asking fellow TF fans here for info. and for their thoughts as well. I don't always research every detail for a topic of casual conversation here, but thanks for your answer and for the reminder. TFWikki is useful but not omniscient, nor as fun as discussing these things with the fandom.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Why can we not transform the gestalt arms correctly? really people

The images from Toy fair were far better and to me made her look so much better and had me more excited.

That's what you get when you have people that have BAs in Liberal Arts putting this stuff together. There's not a lot of attention to detail or following instructions. They probably just looked at the box and said, "Well, it looks about the same as the artwork."

Va'al wrote:I'm not wholly sold, but my desire to like this more than I do makes ..well, like it more than I actually do. So am still in the 'yay!' camp!

Maybe it'll be a case of MP Ironhide and Bumblebee: it is liked a lot more in hand. either way, she is mine and I will enjoy her (and make the helicoptor twins her legs)

kurthy wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Why can we not transform the gestalt arms correctly? really people

The images from Toy fair were far better and to me made her look so much better and had me more excited.

That's what you get when you have people that have BAs in Liberal Arts putting this stuff together.

Hey!

Va'al wrote:

kurthy wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Why can we not transform the gestalt arms correctly? really people

The images from Toy fair were far better and to me made her look so much better and had me more excited.

That's what you get when you have people that have BAs in Liberal Arts putting this stuff together.

Hey!

you had to push that button didn't you

Let my try to fix this for you: That's what you get when you have people that have BAs in Liberal Arts but cannot read directions, doesn't care to read directions nor cares how good a display looks putting this stuff together

I think that fits a bit better.

You'd have to be red/green colorblind to enjoy this, or looking at it through sepia-tinted glasses. Probably the worst color palette I've seen on a TF in a decade.

Looks like all the nice turquoise parts are now gray. Looks like a KO.