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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:57 pm

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One thing that's very interesting, is that in combined mode, defensor had wide hips. So for Victorion, who's a female gestalt, this wide hipped look works perfectly. :P
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:44 pm

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Burn wrote:I don't see "females", I see robots.
That being said, individually, not too fussed on them. But combined? I quite like the combined mode.
I'm agreeing with you a lot today Burn ;)
Individually its kind of a fail for me. Combined though... I'm really diggin it.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby libleat » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:19 pm

Longtime lurker on the site, de-lurking to say that this combiner is good for two reasons:

1. The commentary on this combiner lets me know who is an inflammatory hateful bigot against trans people (including myself), as it's perfectly within reason to critique this toy in a manner that is not transphobic or cis-normative (no, not "all women" have curves, sorry, especially alien women >:oP ).

2. The commentary on this combiner allows all other decent people to look at those transphobic comments and know exactly the calibre of people they are dealing with.

I am deeply disappointed with the fanbase whose interest in robot puzzle toys I have shared for some years now, but I'm glad to see the mods are taking some action to curb the worst of the commentary.
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Re: Official Promotional Images - Fan Built Combiner Victorion and Torchbearers

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:20 pm

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That face sculpt on the left bears more than a passing resemblance to Nightbird. Makes one wonder. Too bad Takara has beaten Hasbro to the punch ;)



You say this like it ever stops them from releasing a Nightbird.


Oh, I know it won't stop Hasbro from trying, but it will certainly preclude their chances of getting me to buy it with a superior version already en route.
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Re: Official Promotional Images - Fan Built Combiner Victorion and Torchbearers

Postby Cobotron » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:23 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:That face sculpt on the left bears more than a passing resemblance to Nightbird. Makes one wonder. Too bad Takara has beaten Hasbro to the punch ;)

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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:40 pm

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AutobotAlvaron wrote:Adding open hands, painted pouty lips, & pointed chins to new head-molds on male bot-bodies, is not enough to make these "fem-bots" to me. It was an interesting concept, but when no new molds was made part of the deal, I lost interest. This set is really not of any interest but for the revelation of new pivoting feet, aka the much sought after ankle tilt, and the combining sword is genuinely cool.

Barbie-esque physiques are not required, but the female form is supposed to be different than the male. I know that these are robots & not people, but they're being marketed to a mostly male audience, where female action figures are definitely feminine. Why differentiate between genders in a mechanical species when selling toys, unless there is an interest in the distinctions of personality & physicality of each kind?

All females have curves, big or little, and being "warrior women" does not preclude this. Look at female athletes, wrestlers, or even super-heroines (Xena, WonderWoman, WWE Divas, even She-Hulk)- curves abound. This set just doesn't seem female, but something else, something weird. I'm sure some will like it and buy it, but it's appeal will be far from universal; the obnoxious coloration only worsens it. A third or fourth color may have helped a little here. This team deserved better.

It would be a shame to not get other Combiner sets because of Hasbro's limited resources/ product slots being used for this rather than the Terrorcons, Predacons, SeaCons, & Technobots. Victorion is a two-toned curiosity, with a few interesting features (sword, feet) which some will like, but most will pan. And as a history making all-female Transformer team, it is more than a bit lacking, but hooray for being history making? :-?





It's obviously female jeez




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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Thadicon » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:22 pm

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The sculpts aren't bad as people are saying they are, but the colour isn't my thing. I know its part of the theme being from the sea of rust a nice blue would have looked better.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:49 pm

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Thadicon wrote:The sculpts aren't bad as people are saying they are, but the colour isn't my thing. I know its part of the theme being from the sea of rust a nice blue would have looked better.




Yeah only the color seems bad but besides that the team looks great.



At least they gave them more then just new heads (New chests and some of them got new arms as well as new weapons)
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:52 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Thadicon wrote:The sculpts aren't bad as people are saying they are, but the colour isn't my thing. I know its part of the theme being from the sea of rust a nice blue would have looked better.




Yeah only the color seems bad but besides that the team looks great.



At least they gave them more then just new heads (New chests and some of them got new arms as well as new weapons)
Why you always put so much space between all of you lines of text?
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Moosey » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:00 pm

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Burn wrote:I don't see "females", I see robots.
That being said, individually, not too fussed on them. But combined? I quite like the combined mode.
I'm agreeing with you a lot today Burn ;)
Individually its kind of a fail for me. Combined though... I'm really diggin it.

I agree with burn. I mean, I just find it ridiculous that some people must insist on their figures looking like supermodels... I mean, do you want your Optimus to have a super accurate male physique with sculpted muscles???
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Moosey » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:03 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:This monstrosity reminds me why I took an extended break from the collecting hobby not so long ago. I hope very few people trade perfectly good money for this. It only in incourages more crappy repaints.


ah well.

Sorry to call you out on this, but why must you wish that everyone does not buy Victorion? I can understand that you do not wish to buy the set, but why do you have to wish that no one buys it?
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:04 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Why you always put so much space between all of you lines of text?



Bad history of being criticized


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Because of him I can't do simple things like have eye contact with people because he said it was rude I was traumatized.



As well as I just want people to understand what I'm typing so it doesn't seem like I have run on sentences.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Thadicon » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:00 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Thadicon wrote:The sculpts aren't bad as people are saying they are, but the colour isn't my thing. I know its part of the theme being from the sea of rust a nice blue would have looked better.




Yeah only the color seems bad but besides that the team looks great.



At least they gave them more then just new heads (New chests and some of them got new arms as well as new weapons)



Yeah they chucked in a few extras which was good. I probably wont pick them up but that one in the Hotspot mold is tempting.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:14 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Why you always put so much space between all of you lines of text?



Bad history of being criticized


Had a Step Father who was all about perfection and would physically abuse me (Pushed down stairs, ears pulled, being kicked in the tush when I was walking too slow and other things) when I did something wrong even if I never did anything wrong.


Because of him I can't do simple things like have eye contact with people because he said it was rude I was traumatized.



As well as I just want people to understand what I'm typing so it doesn't seem like I have run on sentences.

Well, I like your posting style, it's very straightforward, and easy to read and understand, so there you go :D
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:31 pm

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For those who are against the color pallette (as I am) let's just wait if there's gonna be some improvements. Or maybe TT will give her their "treatment". Make her more comic color like like UM? Hopefully not another Tomy Mall exclusive though.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:33 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:For those who are against the color pallette (as I am) let's just wait if there's gonna be some improvements. Or maybe TT will give her their "treatment". Make her more comic color like like UM? Hopefully not another Tomy Mall exclusive though.

I like it, it's just that it could stand to have a lot more of a third color to break up the scheme (silve r on dead-ends doors, etc)
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SDCC 2015 - Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Reveal Video

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:51 pm

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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby MGrotusque » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:07 am

Yikes. I think they coulda done better than that. I'm not impressed in the least. The new combiner head sculpt and the sword are the only things even remotely interesting to me from this release.
Those new hands and feet have peeked my interest aswell to be honest.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:59 am

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Will TT go for her? I know that they released windblade but victorion doesn't seem to fit in their unite warriors line ideals.

Again, I do wish we could of voted for how the colours would of been applied but I'll take her still
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:29 am

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I can't find the right words to convey my feelings on this monstrosity, I'll just leave it at this: I'm saddened by this, a great deal so.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:35 am

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Autobot032 wrote:I can't find the right words to convey my feelings on this monstrosity, I'll just leave it at this: I'm saddened by this, a great deal so.

Ugly as it is or the most part, I gotta day that headsculpt for the combined mold is pretty rad. I really like it. It's just those colors on it. Damn.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:45 am

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RhA wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:I can't find the right words to convey my feelings on this monstrosity, I'll just leave it at this: I'm saddened by this, a great deal so.

Ugly as it is or the most part, I gotta day that headsculpt for the combined mold is pretty rad. I really like it. It's just those colors on it. Damn.


I think the head, hands, feet and weaponry are fantastic, I think the rest is a waste.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:04 am

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I'm a big collector of fembots. I get every one that's made and easily accessible, even if I don't watch the media (i.e. Strongarm in RID). That being said, I'm no longer 100% sure I'll pick her up. I'm ALL for a fembot team that forms a combiner. I just wish the color palette had more variety to it. As is, those colors that are used are far too saturated to make it a must-have toy. They're almost G2 in their garish shades. If they'd been toned down some, maybe a third color (silver, black, ivory, white) added as accents or bot leg colors, I'd feel a lot better about it. Rust Dust (whoever came up with THAT name....just...no) is a perfect example of how it could have worked better. She's got a significant amount of black in her robot mode and it breaks up the other two colors nicely. I realize some of the reason the red and teal look so garish is because of how the "official" photos make them appear brighter colored. It's like with CW Brawl. He looked greener in official pictures than his toy ended up being. I'm hoping the same happens with these ladies. A more muted red and teal would be welcome.

I really WANT to like Victorion. I do. But the overly unified team colors are just too much, as they currently appear. I hope they're fixed by the time she comes out next spring, or I may have to pass on a fembot figure for the first time.
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:08 am

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shajaki wrote:
Burn wrote:I don't see "females", I see robots.
That being said, individually, not too fussed on them. But combined? I quite like the combined mode.
I'm agreeing with you a lot today Burn ;)
Individually its kind of a fail for me. Combined though... I'm really diggin it.

I agree with burn. I mean, I just find it ridiculous that some people must insist on their figures looking like supermodels... I mean, do you want your Optimus to have a super accurate male physique with sculpted muscles???

Sucking up to me will only work if you admit I'm prettier than Va'al. >:oP
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Re: Fan Built Combiner "Victorion" Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:13 am

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Bounti76 wrote:But the overly unified team colors are just too much, as they currently appear. I hope they're fixed by the time she comes out next spring, or I may have to pass on a fembot figure for the first time.

I WANT A DISCUSSION ON THIS!
(as in with other people too)

Looking at the combined mode this morning I got to thinking about unified team colours, the scramble combiners have never been unified, are we subconsciously rejecting these colours because we're not use to unified scramble combiner colours?

I personally am a stickler for symmetry so that's probably why I don't have too much of a problem with the colours in combined mode.

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