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News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:00 pm

Much like the Legion version of Smokescreen was a fantastic figure so to is the scaled up version of that mold. Much like Bumblebee universal joints have replaced the ball joints of the smaller figure but no new articulation was added. I tend to favor this figure over Bumblebee but that's not surprising as I thought the Legion toy was better too. Hopefully we'll see this mold repainted into Prowl and perhaps Bluestreak.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:10 pm

Fellow Seibertron.com user chuckdawg1999 has just uploaded a video review of another simplified figure from the Beast Hunters line, and it's Deluxe Smokescreen's turn this time round! Check out what he has to say in the video embedded below.

by **SentinelA** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:27 pm

Why no elbows. Even G1's had elbows (and sometimes knees)

by **ZackRoyer** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:59 pm

Why no elbows. Even G1's had elbows (and sometimes knees)

Why do better when people buy s**t?

News Credits: 4 · by **zatara1701** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:20 pm

Is there any way we can get a size comparison between this Smokescreen and the first Deluxe??

I am just curious, because the difference between the initial Prime Voyager and the simplified one kinda blew me away.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:24 pm

Simple transformations do not interest me at all.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:39 pm

SentinelA wrote:Why no elbows. Even G1's had elbows (and sometimes knees)

Because the original Legion figure didn't have elbows or knees. This is a direct up-sizing of the figure.

by **Doubledealer93** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:48 pm

i just want to know if their weapons are able to fit in normal 5mm hands. if so pics pls?

by **shockblast2** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:12 pm

The video is very informative. Reinforced my decision to drop all TF lines other than Generations like a bad habit. Gonna be great for the children though!

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:22 pm

shockblast2 wrote:The video is very informative. Reinforced my decision to drop all TF lines other than Generations like a bad habit. Gonna be great for the children though!

Let them down gently, you know how they get.

News Credits: 1 · by **Flakmaster** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:21 pm

Is this...real?

It feels like a KO review that's being passed off as an actual Hasbro figure to try and rile us up in the wake of the "simplified figures" announcement; I mean no offense to the reviewer's credibility, this is just such a step down in Deluxes, and such a lazy one at that, that I am skeptical.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Flakmaster wrote:Is this...real?

It feels like a KO review that's being passed off as an actual Hasbro figure to try and rile us up in the wake of the "simplified figures" announcement; I mean no offense to the reviewer's credibility, this is just such a step down in Deluxes, and such a lazy one at that, that I am skeptical.

Yes these are real. They were shown at BotCon and as explained there the first wave would be up-sized Legion figures due to time issues. Starting with the movie figures they will be original molds that will (should?) have more articulation.

by **TimothyR** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:40 pm

Flakmaster wrote:Is this...real?

It feels like a KO review that's being passed off as an actual Hasbro figure to try and rile us up in the wake of the "simplified figures" announcement; I mean no offense to the reviewer's credibility, this is just such a step down in Deluxes, and such a lazy one at that, that I am skeptical.

where have you been?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes these are real. They were shown at BotCon and as explained there the first wave would be up-sized Legion figures due to time issues. Starting with the movie figures they will be original molds that will (should?) have more articulation.

i feel bad that you own this lol.

i hope you didn't have to pay for it.

i don't want to see any repaints of this thing.. hell.. i'd prefer this thing get lost in the shuffle like the figures in the past that have actually deserved to see the light of day.

it infuriates me that we get this ****.. yet, over here, we'll never see prime voyager breakdown, deluxe jet vehicon, dotm human alliance soundwave, dotm deluxe soundwave, dotm deluxe wheeljack, dotm deluxe leadfoot.. etc. it's absolutely ridiculous that they'd waste their time with this crap rather than filling those spots with figures that should've been released here in first place... i mean, they have the molds, it's not like there would be any tooling involved.. and people clearly want them.. oh well. if hasbro wants to lose money they can. at this point they can't even get rid of the beast hunters toys that are better than this.

by **DarkEnergon** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:47 am

I just watched with the audio off, but I assume there was some trouble getting the parts to line up and snap in. Even still, he looks nice and solid as a robot. I have fast action battlers Jolt, and that thing a is a royal pain to align as a vehicle, and then as a robot he won't even stand. It's crap.

I'm a big fan of ratcheted joints for kids. Aside from transforming, the biggest issue my kids have with them is arms and legs falling off when they "battle." In that regard, this smokescreen is a vast improvement over prime smokescreen, at least.

by **Optimum Supreme** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:06 pm

SentinelA wrote:Why no elbows. Even G1's had elbows (and sometimes knees)

There were plenty of G1's with no elbows. Some had shoulders, some had elbows, some even had neither, and only the best of the best had both.

And knees, you could probably count on your hands and feet how many had knees, compared to the dozens upon dozens that had no leg movement at all. Having hip movement, that puts this above most G1's in leg abilities.

I'm not saying this is a great figure by modern standards (though I did quite like the legends size version), but if you're going to compare it to G1, be real, compare it to G1 as a whole, not rose colored nostalgia of the best of the best G1. If this had come out in G1, it would have been considered highly articulated.

(I love G1, btw, lest anyone think I'm hatin on it, but let's be honest, G1 was about anything but articulation)