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Real talk here, why the hell do people get this offended over stupid **** like this? They're toys plain and simple and to get this butt hurt about it is ridiculous and kinda embarrassing to the rest of the fan base.

The internet in general is kind of hilarious.

The only real disappointment for me is that Reflector and Ratchet aren't mass release. I mean, I can understand most of the Botcon figures being exclusive - they're kinda things that wouldn't usually happen in a normal line; I can't see Hasbro giving the go-ahead for the cybertronian form of Tigatron for mass retail, or redecoing such an old figure as RID 2001 Megatron (then again, AOE decided to recolour Terrorsaur so what do I know). But things like Reflector and Ratchet who have yet to have major line releases and are such easy new head redecoes of contemporary figures... kinda reminds me of that whole fiasco with the botcon-exclusive Thundercracker that happened a little after Classics.

Kurona wrote:The internet in general is kind of hilarious.

The only real disappointment for me is that Reflector and Ratchet aren't mass release. I mean, I can understand most of the Botcon figures being exclusive - they're kinda things that wouldn't usually happen in a normal line; I can't see Hasbro giving the go-ahead for the cybertronian form of Tigatron for mass retail, or redecoing such an old figure as RID 2001 Megatron (then again, AOE decided to recolour Terrorsaur so what do I know). But things like Reflector and Ratchet who have yet to have major line releases and are such easy new head redecoes of contemporary figures... kinda reminds me of that whole fiasco with the botcon-exclusive Thundercracker that happened a little after Classics.

Which is why I think we might see them eventually. Those 2 you mention were initially in the works for retail releases at some point.

steals_your_goats wrote:Real talk here, why the hell do people get this offended over stupid SHIZZLESNIT like this? They're toys plain and simple and to get this butt hurt about it is ridiculous and kinda embarrassing to the rest of the fan base.

Come on man just have a laugh. I found it a very funny reaction. Like when the Nostalgia Critic hates a film so much. I am sure the person was having fun getting this out of their system.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:The internet in general is kind of hilarious.

The only real disappointment for me is that Reflector and Ratchet aren't mass release. I mean, I can understand most of the Botcon figures being exclusive - they're kinda things that wouldn't usually happen in a normal line; I can't see Hasbro giving the go-ahead for the cybertronian form of Tigatron for mass retail, or redecoing such an old figure as RID 2001 Megatron (then again, AOE decided to recolour Terrorsaur so what do I know). But things like Reflector and Ratchet who have yet to have major line releases and are such easy new head redecoes of contemporary figures... kinda reminds me of that whole fiasco with the botcon-exclusive Thundercracker that happened a little after Classics.

Which is why I think we might see them eventually. Those 2 you mention were initially in the works for retail releases at some point.

Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:The internet in general is kind of hilarious.

The only real disappointment for me is that Reflector and Ratchet aren't mass release. I mean, I can understand most of the Botcon figures being exclusive - they're kinda things that wouldn't usually happen in a normal line; I can't see Hasbro giving the go-ahead for the cybertronian form of Tigatron for mass retail, or redecoing such an old figure as RID 2001 Megatron (then again, AOE decided to recolour Terrorsaur so what do I know). But things like Reflector and Ratchet who have yet to have major line releases and are such easy new head redecoes of contemporary figures... kinda reminds me of that whole fiasco with the botcon-exclusive Thundercracker that happened a little after Classics.

Which is why I think we might see them eventually. Those 2 you mention were initially in the works for retail releases at some point.

Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

Technically, it's not actually the BotCon Devcon head; it's one that is remarkably and astoundingly similar!

Once again, words cannot describe how much I need that Reflector set in my life, even if the camera mode isn't the best ever.

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

Well Thundercracker is a straight-up recolour and I'm pretty sure Hasbro's coneheads had very different engineering to those from botcon.

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Wonder if Botcon will still happen even if under a new format.

Any thoughts on who the next license holder will be?

Botcon in its current format sounded fun from the perspective of being with a bunch of other Transformers fans. I wish I'd been able to go to one.

As it is, I hope that whatever Hasbro does, it will still be a good time- that it will improve on what FunPub did right, and fix the things that seemed to consistently be below par. I'd love to see a convention style format, but even if it's more of a larger presence at SDCC and NY Toy Fair, I'd be okay with that, too. I'd hate to see it end altogether- 23 years is a long time for a convention dedicated to a toyline.

Am I allowed to bring camera?

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

Well Thundercracker is a straight-up recolour and I'm pretty sure Hasbro's coneheads had very different engineering to those from botcon.

The Coneheads are not different at all. They have different wings. They are still the Classics Seeker mold, and are arguably better than the Botcon ones because of their wings.

That Reflector camera is laughably bad. It looks like a fan mode, not like something intended at all. The robots look ok, but that camera is ****.

EDIT: I think the only thing dumber is the filter that turns a legit word into ****.

Dagon wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

Well Thundercracker is a straight-up recolour and I'm pretty sure Hasbro's coneheads had very different engineering to those from botcon.

The Coneheads are not different at all. They have different wings. They are still the Classics Seeker mold, and are arguably better than the Botcon ones because of their wings.

That Reflector camera is laughably bad. It looks like a fan mode, not like something intended at all. The robots look ok, but that camera is SHIZZLESNIT.

EDIT: I think the only thing dumber is the filter that turns a legit word into SHIZZLESNIT.

You're just jealous you didn't come up with it first.

Dagon wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

Well Thundercracker is a straight-up recolour and I'm pretty sure Hasbro's coneheads had very different engineering to those from botcon.

The Coneheads are not different at all. They have different wings. They are still the Classics Seeker mold, and are arguably better than the Botcon ones because of their wings.

That Reflector camera is laughably bad. It looks like a fan mode, not like something intended at all. The robots look ok, but that camera is SHIZZLESNIT.

EDIT: I think the only thing dumber is the filter that turns a legit word into SHIZZLESNIT.

Yes, I know they're still the classics seeker mold. I'm saying they didn't have the same retooling by Hasbro as in Botcon, hence they weren't re-released from Botcon.

Kurona wrote:Yes, I know they're still the classics seeker mold. I'm saying they didn't have the same retooling by Hasbro as in Botcon, hence they weren't re-released from Botcon.

This is really interesting and something I did not know. Which version of the retooling do people preffer?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yes, I know they're still the classics seeker mold. I'm saying they didn't have the same retooling by Hasbro as in Botcon, hence they weren't re-released from Botcon.

This is really interesting and something I did not know. Which version of the retooling do people preffer?

As said above generally people prefer the HasTak retooling - as do I. For me the icing on top is the ability for Thrust's VTOLs to peg on and off, allowing a degree of customization.

Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Have Botcon retools ever gotten mass retail release? The only one I can think of is the Devcon-headed Scourge in the recent Platinum set for Titans Return and... uh... Platinum set.

But these arent botcon retools. They are Hasbro toys released at Botcon. Didnt the classic seekers get a release at botcon first to eventually see mass retail?

Well Thundercracker is a straight-up recolour and I'm pretty sure Hasbro's coneheads had very different engineering to those from botcon.

The Coneheads are not different at all. They have different wings. They are still the Classics Seeker mold, and are arguably better than the Botcon ones because of their wings.

That Reflector camera is laughably bad. It looks like a fan mode, not like something intended at all. The robots look ok, but that camera is SHIZZLESNIT.

EDIT: I think the only thing dumber is the filter that turns a legit word into SHIZZLESNIT.

You're just jealous you didn't come up with it first.

No, I just think it's stupid.

Phill_D wrote:Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Same, I wanted to read up what was discussed there.

Mindmaster wrote:

Phill_D wrote:Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Same, I wanted to read up what was discussed there.

Shouldn't they Also have revealed tfss 5.0?

steals_your_goats wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Phill_D wrote:Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Same, I wanted to read up what was discussed there.

Shouldn't they Also have revealed tfss 5.0?

Club panel yesterday was just about the magazine and the BotCon comic. TCC Roundtable today (3pm EST) is where it's at - we'll be there!

steals_your_goats wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Phill_D wrote:Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Same, I wanted to read up what was discussed there.

Shouldn't they Also have revealed tfss 5.0?

That will likely be today. Yesterday's one was the Magazine/Comic panel. Today's is the Roundtable.

Dr Va'al wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Phill_D wrote:Has anyone posted any details from the Club panel yesterday? I can't find anything.

Same, I wanted to read up what was discussed there.

Shouldn't they Also have revealed tfss 5.0?

Club panel yesterday was just about the magazine and the BotCon comic. TCC Roundtable today (3pm EST) is where it's at - we'll be there!

Oooooooh.

Man, I feel dumb.