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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:30 pm

NuclearConvoy wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This figure made me realize, in a contemporary setting, I hate the look of pretenders. I find the concept fine, the executionis awful by modern standards, and I don't care if it's intended. In a contemporary setting I find the concept works where the robot and shell aesthetic is combined like skullgrin, thunderwing, black shadow, and bludgeon, or alternatively something more custom like primo's work.

I have an awesome idea for how to revamp the pretender concept, but it's still in development. I actually want to pitch it to Hasbro when I'm done with perfecting it.

Other companies have been rather successful with the "Matryushka Doll" gimmick, look at SoC GX-39 Baikanfu and Masterpiece King Exkaiser

News Credits: 8 · by **NuclearConvoy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:34 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
NuclearConvoy wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This figure made me realize, in a contemporary setting, I hate the look of pretenders. I find the concept fine, the executionis awful by modern standards, and I don't care if it's intended. In a contemporary setting I find the concept works where the robot and shell aesthetic is combined like skullgrin, thunderwing, black shadow, and bludgeon, or alternatively something more custom like primo's work.

I have an awesome idea for how to revamp the pretender concept, but it's still in development. I actually want to pitch it to Hasbro when I'm done with perfecting it.

Other companies have been rather successful with the "Matryushka Doll" gimmick, look at SoC GX-39 Baikanfu and Masterpiece King Exkaiser

My idea is a little more involved than nesting doll gimmicks but I want both of those.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:16 pm

File this one under "Unconfirmed"...

A Weibo user by the name of Lost-Zzl has provided images of a brand new deco on the Generations Roadbuster mold (you can see the original, in our galleries, right here) and it's a deco you'd expect on a vehicle such as this, but seems to come from a source most of us have forgotten: Generation 2!

General Optimus Prime was meant to be a redeco of Autoroller Dirtbag, but was canceled towards the end of the Generation 2 line, back in the early '90s and the figure never really saw the light of day, outside of a few images and some convention displays. The reason we say this is unconfirmed is because we've yet to hear anything about this figure coming to this year's BotCon and we definitely haven't heard anything of this particular deco, but there are some things that support it's potential release.

Here's G2 General Optimus, to refresh your memory:

First of all, Lost-Zzl has this Roadbuster on hand along with several already revealed and in hand upcoming exclusive releases and second, it has what looks to be a professionally (factory) applied tampograph of the Generation 2 Autobot logo on it's backend in vehicle mode.

Since this is out of left field and the first we're hearing of this, we're telling everyone to take this with at least a grain of salt, but to hope for the best and as of right now it could be a BotCon attendee exclusive or even a part of the TCC. You know the drill: As soon as we know, you will!

So, remember...

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by **Mr_Autobot411** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:22 pm

damn he looks amazing in the green deco..........damn!!!!

News Credits: 4 · by **philswitch engage** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:24 pm

meh

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:25 pm

[Spock]Fascinating[/Spock]

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:27 pm

Another abandoned concept? Would fit with Oilmaster, though I would keep in mind the possibility of him being named "Sergeant Hound" instead. I'm saying that not only because of the star on the hood, but also to "save" the G1 Optimus Prime characters, as Hasbro reportedly does not want him, or G1 Megatron proper to be touched by the conventions (which is why we got Megazarak in 2004 instead).

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:28 pm

I like this more than 4/5th on the convention set.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:25 pm

Oh, oh, oh! Please have this version of Prime act like Tommy Lee Jones in the Fugitive! (we're dealing with axiom nexus remember, anything is possible)

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:37 pm

Oh hey, the first (possible) botcon 2015 figure I want.

by **Robogeek1973** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:53 pm

He looks good in that deco.

by **Desslok2201** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:00 pm

I gotta say, I think this idea of letting unreleased figs see the light of day is one of the best they've ever had. If they continue to pump out these and the transforming action masters, I'm going to need a lot more clients.

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:17 pm

Madeus Prime wrote:Oh, oh, oh! Please have this version of Prime act like Tommy Lee Jones in the Fugitive! (we're dealing with axiom nexus remember, anything is possible)

bad Tommy Lee Jones impersonation wrote: Alright, listen up, people. I like that idea.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:29 pm

I really like this homage. If it supposed to represent Prime I'd like to get it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Lucky Logician** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:33 pm

Please understand, I am NOT complaining. I will be very happy if this turns out to be true.

That said, I'm still really surprised this wasn't made from one of Dump Trucks we already have molds of. Or maybe they could've waited a year or so and done if from a future Dump Truck mold we have coming out as part of Combiner Wars...

by **Rated X** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:54 pm

So basically this means there will be no Flywheels…

There is never more than one voyager in the convention exclusives. I would still want this just for my G2 shelf. But hopefully Renderform can improve it like he did Megaplex. He needs a proper head some G2 accurate missiles that can clip to his shoulders.

Also here we go again with the flip flopping…

Botcon 2012 – No 3rd parties in the dealer room

Botcon 2013 – 3rd parties are ok (need to attract more dealers)

Botcon 2014 – Didn’t go (you tell me)

Botcon 2015 – No 3rd parties in the dealer room

Botcon 2016 prediction - 3rd parties are ok again (Chicago flopped)

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:00 pm

That figure is awesome! Though, I'm getting a Hound vibe from this. Other than that, the toy is spectacularly phenomenal. :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:03 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:Why is he squatting? Looks like he's taking a dump.

Maybe Pat Lee designed him :DANCE:

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:04 am

This set is getting worse and worse... how does this have anything to do with TransTech, the planned Beast Machines sequel. FunPub made a universe to explore what it would've been like, and this year's set is suppose to take place in said universe, yet no TransTech are being used... they have definitely dropped the ball with this IMHO

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:25 am

Looks good in green but it's still a lousy figure with a decent altmode. I got regular Roadbuster for £12.99 and I still feel like I paid way too much.

Also the AoE Hound-esque vibe coming from this redeco makes me more annoyed that I still haven't seen the Voyager Hound figure for sale where I live at all. Millions of those Power Battler or one step changer versions, sure... but not the one I actually want to pay money for. Guess it's gonna be another search on eBay... though I do so like buying figures from the shelves like when I was a kid.

News Credits: 2 · by **BERSEKAEL** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:00 am

reminds me movieverse Flak

News Credits: 8 · by **NuclearConvoy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:17 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks good in green but it's still a lousy figure with a decent altmode. I got regular Roadbuster for £12.99 and I still feel like I paid way too much.

Also the AoE Hound-esque vibe coming from this redeco makes me more annoyed that I still haven't seen the Voyager Hound figure for sale where I live at all. Millions of those Power Battler or one step changer versions, sure... but not the one I actually want to pay money for. Guess it's gonna be another search on eBay... though I do so like buying figures from the shelves like when I was a kid.

Voyager Hound is the only AOE toy I bought and I love him.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:54 am

Actually, I think diaclone will be a theme in this year's convention, and possible future offerings. Perhaps Ironhide, an Insecticon and other will get the Diamond treatment? Maybe they will use targetmasters for the Diaclone "pilots"...

Of course, if this does happen, they will have the good sense to understand that they are still TFs, who have somehow partnered with Diaclone people (possibly piloting target master mechs, or just supersized in the same way that the Diaclone partner of magnificus was - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Magnificus_(G1) )

I suspect that future diaclones will be:

- powered convoy (with diaclone driver repaint of that white thing in the current idw inspired version)

- blue powered convoy recolour of combiner wars optimus
- red mirage coloured dragstrip
- other diaclone recolours of combiner wars figures

I also wouldn't be surprised to see waspinator getting some recolours (fox kids, transmetal, etc).

Enjoy, and remember that i told you so!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:18 am

primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, I think diaclone will be a theme in this year's convention, and possible future offerings. Perhaps Ironhide, an Insecticon and other will get the Diamond treatment? Maybe they will use targetmasters for the Diaclone "pilots"...

Of course, if this does happen, they will have the good sense to understand that they are still TFs, who have somehow partnered with Diaclone people (possibly piloting target master mechs, or just supersized in the same way that the Diaclone partner of magnificus was - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Magnificus_(G1) )

I suspect that future diaclones will be:

- powered convoy (with diaclone driver repaint of that white thing in the current idw inspired version)

- blue powered convoy recolour of combiner wars optimus
- red mirage coloured dragstrip
- other diaclone recolours of combiner wars figures

I also wouldn't be surprised to see waspinator getting some recolours (fox kids, transmetal, etc).

Enjoy, and remember that i told you so!

Maybe next year: FunPub can not use molds that are used by Hasbro at the time. In other words, any toy that's newly put on the shelf can't be used until Hasbro's done. So for this year, Combiner Wars are out

As the setting is Axiom Nexus, home of the TransTech (which has nothing to do with the aborted line aside from the designs), the theme is simple: Anything goes (within limits)!