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Liege Evilmus wrote:

microclone wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:They couldn't have found a bigger box huh?

You know on this show outside of the first episode he's just been a cab. He's blocked up so I can't tell if he comes with any type of atachments, but they realy should give him some.

It's not like there's no room to fit more stuff in there!?!

Oh, and for the $20 price mark on what looks to be a $10 sized figure, PASS on pricipal alone!

you are most certainly talking nonsense, when voyager prime is released compare his size to that of the $10 toys and you can bet he is as proportionately massive as any $20 is to any $10 that weve seen since BW>cybertron/movie.

We'll see when it's in hand Mister you who know's so much

well I know no more than anybody but a combination of bits and pieces of evidence in no way suggest that voayger prime is the same size as a delux figure. we'll only know when we get em out the box!!

Prime's Transformation makes him small in vehicle mode, as he's all folded up into a box. I'm sure he's taller than Ratchet, Bumblebee and Prowl as a robot.

I'm sure he's as big as Classic Voyager Prime.

Liege Evilmus wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:

Liege Evilmus wrote:[

Got that right!

No, aparently not.

I tried though, which is mor ethan I can say for Hasbro here.

I mean realy, why not just position this heap so the die-cut doesn't cover the bot?

Whoops, I messed up the quoting. I was just saying that I agree with you.

1337W422102 wrote:Whoops, I messed up the quoting. I was just saying that I agree with you.

AHH! Than I continue to reign supreme! Ruling with like minded Lords

Scaleface wrote:Prime's Transformation makes him small in vehicle mode, as he's all folded up into a box. I'm sure he's taller than Ratchet, Bumblebee and Prowl as a robot.

I'm sure he's as big as Classic Voyager Prime.

Thanks for the pic. And this isn't towards you, I just need to reference...

To microclone, I wish I had my camera here, but any one with these figure can testify that Voyager Classics Prime is conciderably shorter than any of his AEC class counterparts.

In the pick that ScaleFace posted Rodimus is in a squated position. I mention this because more than a few Deluxe class bots near and rival Voyager Classic Primes size.

With this figure looking to be similar in scale, and half way between Voyager and Deluxe, wouldn't a half way price point based on size instead of class be more precident?

After all, a MiniCon in a Voyager box is still a MiniCon!

Then agian, as I said and you agreed, we won't know till it's in hand. Hell maybe it'll even be like Leader Metroplex who shadows Supreme Primus

However I doubt it...

Hasbro has stated before that the "size class" isn't as much about size and number of parts and detail and such. So some figured will be smaller, but have lots of moving parts or gimmicks, while others will be larger and be simplistic. There are some tall Deluxes like Night Slash Cheetor and short ones like the RiD build team. They are all Deluxes.

Scaleface wrote:Hasbro has stated before that the "size class" isn't as much about size and number of parts and detail and such. So some figured will be smaller, but have lots of moving parts or gimmicks, while others will be larger and be simplistic. There are some tall Deluxes like Night Slash Cheetor and short ones like the RiD build team. They are all Deluxes.

They also said that a 15% retool constitutes as a new mold.

Hence I call a profitering cop out, or in other words...

!!!SHINANIGANS!!!

Declaring that size and parts do not determine class brings a sad truth to the MiniCon statment I made earlier.

Watch out for the shinanigan calling, someone might get pistol wipped

Far as the voyager Prime, I don't like how they displayed him in the box. He should have had his side facing the window. Also the axe is kind of a dissapointment. At Botcon they said thet the Axe was like half of his trailer and looked amazing. Looks to me like they only met half that expectation.

I will still buy him though, take him out of his box, and give him the more detailed axe that comes with the 2-pack.

On the plus side, at least the painted version looks better than the solid red version that we all saw a few weeks ago.

I always had a problem with Prime being way too big. he was always towering over everybody except maybe that lines Leader sized Megatron. It's hard to even consider him as being part of the toy line when he stands so fricking far above them, height-wise.

I for one, like the smaller sized Primes. he may not be a mega or a leader but the voyager sized Classics Prime is just the right size for me. I can only hope that the TFA one isn't super gangley when he's in 'bot mode.

Liege Evilmus wrote:

Scaleface wrote:Prime's Transformation makes him small in vehicle mode, as he's all folded up into a box. I'm sure he's taller than Ratchet, Bumblebee and Prowl as a robot.

I'm sure he's as big as Classic Voyager Prime.

Thanks for the pic. And this isn't towards you, I just need to reference...

To microclone, I wish I had my camera here, but any one with these figure can testify that Voyager Classics Prime is conciderably shorter than any of his AEC class counterparts.

In the pick that ScaleFace posted Rodimus is in a squated position. I mention this because more than a few Deluxe class bots near and rival Voyager Classic Primes size.

With this figure looking to be similar in scale, and half way between Voyager and Deluxe, wouldn't a half way price point based on size instead of class be more precident?

After all, a MiniCon in a Voyager box is still a MiniCon!

Then agian, as I said and you agreed, we won't know till it's in hand. Hell maybe it'll even be like Leader Metroplex who shadows Supreme Primus

However I doubt it...

as has been mentioned before class distinctions are down not just to height but plastic amount and construction detail. I know as a fact that voyager prime is approx 7.5 inches tall from a correspondence overseas, this isnt some big deal or me making up stories but its something ive been told. in vehicle mode hes about the same dimensions as bulkhead! remember 7.5 inches and when the toy arrives see if thats not the case, that height gives a toy with considerable stature over classics prime as an example.

heres the main point. when voyager prime arrives I cannot forsee anybody reasonably getting the toy out, transforming it and saying 'this should have been a delux'.