mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I forgot about those lines but Hound is justified at least
Brains became an arse hole from being tortured by Humans but besides that i think that the Autobot's threat were minimal especially since Hound only threatened Joyce a few time because he was the head of KSI and was one of two heads in their comrades murders and melted for parts to make their own robots that later went hay wire.
There's also Optimus's very first lines of the movie being "I'll kill you!" which he spoke even before he realized where he was, meaning that he was threatening to murder the first people he'd come across no matter who they were.
Only reason he didn't was because the first people he did come across happened to be ones trying to calm him down rather than trying to kill him like the last ones he came across before going into stasis/hiding were. Had he instead woken up to a bunch of much more hostile humans, he'd have probably opened fire on them if only to at least defend himself.
SlyTF1 wrote:Cthulhunicron wrote:I, for one, am not a fan of how the Autobots acted in this film. I understand they're in a bad situation, but I don't like the heroes acting so trigger happy and eager to kill humans. I also don't like Optimus putting a sword to Grimlock's throat and saying "Defend my family or die!"
The Dinobots have always been like that, though. You have to best them and hold them at gunpoint to get them to do anything.
"Look at the monitors! You must help stop these disasters."
"Uh, me Grimlock not care whole planet fall apart. Make no difference to me Grimlock."
"With you on it?"
"Hmm, hadn't thought of that."
Scene from "The Ultimate Doom, Part 2", in which Prime and Wheeljack convince the Dinobots to help out by simply pointing out the logic of "If you guys don't help, you'll be just as screwed as everyone else."
As for what else they could have done in this version to convince the Dinobots to help, a lot of this issue is rooted more in the writing of this scene, in which it's more of the filmmakers' fault for depicting the Dinobots more like savage beasts who'd need to be tamed rather than sentient beings who could be coerced through persuasion.
I'm not necessarily saying that the scene should have been changed to Optimus using logic and reason to rationally convince a troupe of eloquent-minded British-accented Dinobots to partake in a jolly good show of sportsmanship (however amusing that might have been
), but simply that the Dinobots didn't need to be reduced to mere animals to make the scene look cool.
Although I do concur with mirageandjazz1197's suggestion of "we will all perish", which does fit with the aforementioned coercion from "The Ultimate Doom".
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