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News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:48 pm

Bed Bugs wrote:Yeah, I forgot about that.

So what other rivals can the Predacus Council have?

The Maximal Imperium?

Who better to fight a Tripredacus toy than a Magnaboss toy?

Also just so happens that the current TCC magazine story "Another Light " features Prowl, Silverbolt, and Ironhide, along with Grimlock and Ultra Magnus/Mammoth. As the magazine story is set to be a two-year story, it's possible that it could see these five Autobots-turned-Maximals-turned-Autobots-again could get pulled out of the SG universe at some point to end up becoming a new five-bot Magnaboss toy to go against the new five-bot Tripredacus toy in next year's BotCon set. 8-)

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:58 pm

But if Silverbolt, Ironhide, and Prowl return to being Autobots, wouldn't they revert to just looking like their already released Combiner Wars toys?

I was looking for other Predacon factions for rivals. This feels like it's move a Predacon Civil War story than a Predacon vs. Maximal story.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:00 pm

Bed Bugs wrote:But if Silverbolt, Ironhide, and Prowl return to being Autobots, wouldn't they revert to just looking like their already released Combiner Wars toys?

I was looking for other Predacon factions for rivals. This feels like it's move a Predacon Civil War story than a Predacon vs. Maximal story.

It could be lio-convoy and razorbeast - as per the graphic novel - they may have been dealing with magmatron, but he worked for the council and lio did seem to be opposing the council as well.

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:22 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Bed Bugs wrote:But if Silverbolt, Ironhide, and Prowl return to being Autobots, wouldn't they revert to just looking like their already released Combiner Wars toys?

I was looking for other Predacon factions for rivals. This feels like it's move a Predacon Civil War story than a Predacon vs. Maximal story.

It could be lio-convoy and razorbeast - as per the graphic novel - they may have been dealing with magmatron, but he worked for the council and lio did seem to be opposing the council as well.

IDW's Beast Era is quite different 3H's/Fun Pub's.

For one, Magmatron's a good guy Dinobot in the latter.

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:29 pm

Bed Bugs wrote:But if Silverbolt, Ironhide, and Prowl return to being Autobots, wouldn't they revert to just looking like their already released Combiner Wars toys?

Not necessarily. Currently, Silverbolt is the only one in his CW body. But, should Ultra Mammoth become Ultra Magnus again, he could become the torso, and Silverbolt (along with Ironhide, Prowl, and Grimlock) could undergo the same phenomenon that would upgrade Ultra Magnus and become a new form based on one of the limb molds and colored like BW eagle Silverbolt. The Firefly mold, for example, could even be a straight redeco as its head could work to approximate the mouthplated BW eagle Silverbolt's head.

Magnus could be a blue and while redeco of CW Optimus with a new combiner head based on Magnaboss. The only questions remaining would be which molds could Ironhide, Prowl, and Grimlock be made from that would both not be redundant with the existing CW Prowl and CW Ironhide molds, and work as vehicular versions of an elephant, a lion, and a raptor. :-?

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:56 pm

I dunno, that seems like wishful thinking, and kind of pointless.

Like, as far as the timing goes, we know 5-part Vehicle Predacus happens first, then 3 part Beast Tripredacus later. With Magnaboss, it's been established that the G1 bots become 3-part combiner Beast Magnaboss. What you're proposing is moving them in the opposite direction that the Tripredacus Council is moving in where 3-part combiner Beast Magnaboss becomes 5-part combiner Vehicle Magnaboss.

I just don't see that happening.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:13 pm

i would love to see a new 5-member Magnaboss. this set is exciting me and I may try to actually buy it somehow

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:31 pm

Bed Bugs wrote:I dunno, that seems like wishful thinking, and kind of pointless.

Like, as far as the timing goes, we know 5-part Vehicle Predacus happens first, then 3 part Beast Tripredacus later. With Magnaboss, it's been established that the G1 bots become 3-part combiner Beast Magnaboss. What you're proposing is moving them in the opposite direction that the Tripredacus Council is moving in where 3-part combiner Beast Magnaboss becomes 5-part combiner Vehicle Magnaboss.

I just don't see that happening.

Well, as far as the BW cartoon is concerned (the thing all of this revolves around), neither group becomes a 3-part beast Tripredacus or a 3-part beast Magnaboss anyway.

However, going by the 3H/Fun Pub Beast Era fiction, there is a 3-part beast Magnaboss in the post-Beast Machines era, so even if the 3-part beast Magnaboss of the BWSG story becomes a 5-part vehicle Magnaboss for next year's pre-BW story, he'd presumably become a 3-part beast Magnaboss again eventually. Ultra Magnus and Grimlock could either die or have something happen to them to leave only the main three remaining.

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:33 pm

The only way I could see that working is if Ultra Magnus and Grimlock's sparks get absorbed into the combined forms personality.

Ultra Magnus = Magna
Grimlock = Boss

Ultra Magnus + Grimlock = Magnaboss

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:43 pm

Bed Bugs wrote:The only way I could see that working is if Ultra Magnus and Grimlock's sparks get absorbed into the combined forms personality.

Ultra Magnus = Magna
Grimlock = Boss

Ultra Magnus + Grimlock = Magnaboss

I don't see why.

As I said, they could die or something could happen to them (retire, get taken, get pulled to another world, etc.) to leave only the other three remaining.

News Credits: 33 · by **TF_JW** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:42 am

All three lamps are lit... Sea Clamp's teaser art has now been revealed!

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:55 am

Awe hell yeah, the silverbolt mold! makes the combiner look different from Thunder Mayhem while still making an awesome torso!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:50 am

TFCC's TF_JW has posted once again in the Energon Pub, revealing the art for the third member of the Tripredacus council, part of the BotCon 2016 'Dawn of the Predacus' box set - Sea Clamp! The figure reuses the Combiner Wars Silverbolt mold with a new headsculpt, and will be full revealed tomorrow, so keep your optics tuned for more.

All three lamps are lit... Sea Clamp's teaser art has now been revealed!

News Credits: 33 · by **TF_JW** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:32 am

And here's a fun little comic that puts all of the teasers together:

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:40 am

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:42 am

No visible wings... :-?

It could turn out to be either Silverbolt or Scattershot (but not Cyclonus, his chest is different).

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:No visible wings...

It could turn out to be either Silverbolt or Scattershot (but not Cyclonus, his chest is different).

which would look better for the character though?

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:02 am

What if it's the Scattorshot remold....but facing backwards? :-?

Wings would look like claws and the cannon would look like the tail of the lobster version.

News Credits: 1 · by **Lucky Logician** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:02 am

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:No visible wings...

It could turn out to be either Silverbolt or Scattershot (but not Cyclonus, his chest is different).

which would look better for the character though?

Which version of this mold would look better? Isn't it obvious?

Neither.

Why make this guy a jet at all? None of the other non-flying characters have been turned into a flyer. I still think the Hot Spot mold is the best choice. It has an unofficial crawfish mode.

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:10 am

Fun Pub turned Depthcharge and Rampage both into jets. It was pretty much a given Sea Clamp would be a jet.

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:17 am

For what its worth, though Sea Clamp had the largest toy, he was the smallest in the show (Cicadacon was the biggest, despite his toy being just barely the smallest).

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:49 am

Sabrblade wrote:No visible wings...

It could turn out to be either Silverbolt or Scattershot (but not Cyclonus, his chest is different).

So, what are we looking at then? A wingless silverbolt figure? I would assume then that they might do something special in lieu of wings then...

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:57 am

Argh! This set is messing with my head. I think I like all of these figures indvidually. Were these at a retail I'd snap them up PDQ. Having passed on TF3, I like Tarantulas, Ravage is cool if his head isn't soo organic looking he ends up ruining the angular asthetic of the mold, and I like the Ramhorn remold. But I have no connection to these characters, and as much as I really want combiner fodder for the cons, a Council doesn't fit the worldview of my collection, so as a gestalt and a collection, it lacks interests.

Then again, Botcon is close to me. Do I go? If so, I can't not get the figures, but I don't know that I want to go alone. It's been years since I've been, I hate to just muscle in on the Seibertron crowd who roams together, and have no one to go with. And I'm sure I'm gonna want whatever exclusive figures are there. And if I don't go, I;m gonna kick myself and hate passing on the set down the road, but I don't forsee this being a star piece in my collection...

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:03 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:No visible wings...

It could turn out to be either Silverbolt or Scattershot (but not Cyclonus, his chest is different).

So, what are we looking at then? A wingless silverbolt figure? I would assume then that they might do something special in lieu of wings then...

It has to have wings. We just can't see them in this artwork. All I'm saying is that, because we can't see the wings, the mold could be one version or the other.

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:11 pm

If this was Cicadacon i would say it works perfectly but its not.... Suprised they didn't go with the cw hotspot mold for Sea Clamp because you could pull off an fan mode with that which it resembled a lobster...