War for Cybertron: Earthrise Sky Lynx Found at Australian Retail

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Neither version of the mold I have have that problem.

I've got like.... most versions of that mold. Not all of them are floppy, mind you- Jazz is just the worst. But for the life of me, I can't figure out WHY they didn't make a way for his chest to lock into place.

Bounti76 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Neither version of the mold I have have that problem.

I've got like.... most versions of that mold. Not all of them are floppy, mind you- Jazz is just the worst. But for the life of me, I can't figure out WHY they didn't make a way for his chest to lock into place.

I have the SG Stepper version, I'm also surprised they never had the chest lock in anywhere

Special Ops Jazz is great, but I’d like one with ankle tilts and no door wings. Still, I’d probably be happy with anything. Jazz is my second favorite , and it’d be awesome to have a WFC version of him.

Autobot N wrote:Special Ops Jazz is great, but I’d like one with ankle tilts and no door wings. Still, I’d probably be happy with anything. Jazz is my second favorite , and it’d be awesome to have a WFC version of him.

Y'know what'd be really cool? If whatever Jazz they end up making in Earthrise or Part 3 ends up having an option to have door wings or not, whether it's removable door wings or if they fold out of sight unobtrusively or something along those lines.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Special Ops Jazz is great, but I’d like one with ankle tilts and no door wings. Still, I’d probably be happy with anything. Jazz is my second favorite , and it’d be awesome to have a WFC version of him.

Y'know what'd be really cool? If whatever Jazz they end up making in Earthrise or Part 3 ends up having an option to have door wings or not, whether it's removable door wings or if they fold out of sight unobtrusively or something along those lines.

Not for nothing, the Jazz on the box has door wings.

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Special Ops Jazz is great, but I’d like one with ankle tilts and no door wings. Still, I’d probably be happy with anything. Jazz is my second favorite , and it’d be awesome to have a WFC version of him.

Y'know what'd be really cool? If whatever Jazz they end up making in Earthrise or Part 3 ends up having an option to have door wings or not, whether it's removable door wings or if they fold out of sight unobtrusively or something along those lines.

Not for nothing, the Jazz on the box has door wings.

Dang. Care to post a picture?

Autobot N wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Special Ops Jazz is great, but I’d like one with ankle tilts and no door wings. Still, I’d probably be happy with anything. Jazz is my second favorite , and it’d be awesome to have a WFC version of him.

Y'know what'd be really cool? If whatever Jazz they end up making in Earthrise or Part 3 ends up having an option to have door wings or not, whether it's removable door wings or if they fold out of sight unobtrusively or something along those lines.

Not for nothing, the Jazz on the box has door wings.

Dang. Care to post a picture?

I'm trying to figure it out. Maybe I can take a picture of the magnifying glass over Jazz on the box.

This part?

Is that Jazz? Has the red visor, has the doors on the back. And the colors aren't defined, but I guess that could be red and blue on white...

Honestly, I kinda see more Prowl there... Then again, the two of them have very similar body types with the hood chest and door wings (on toys)

I wouldnt replace my POTP Jazz if a new one came out. Sure, Jazz wasn't a combiner in G1 but I dont feel the combiner gimmick detracted anything from the toy. He looked as good as I need in my collection.

Also, I might be in minority on this but I preffer the vehicle mode on CW Cyclonus. I really love how loooooong that nocescone is. It really reminds me of that perspective shot we get in the 86 film when we first see it transform during the transfiguration scene.

william-james88 wrote:I wouldnt replace my POTP Jazz if a new one came out. Sure, Jazz wasn't a combiner in G1 but I dont feel the combiner gimmick detracted anything from the toy. He looked as good as I need in my collection.

Also, I might be in minority on this but I preffer the vehicle mode on CW Cyclonus. I really love how loooooong that nocescone is. It really reminds me of that perspective shot we get in the 86 film when we first see it transform during the transfiguration scene.

I also enjoy the vehicle mode on CW Cyclonus, and wish the nosecone on the new one was longer, but honestly the idea of a potential upgrade kit for this new one to give it an IDW head and sword is much more interesting to me, as well as up my alley. Plus, even though I liked the purple used for CW, this new one looks much better, even without paint

Heh, if they do Jazz again it'll be one of the cleanest looking transformers ever, no extra tampos or print. They're not going through that again.

The old Generations Jazz is nice enough and the PotP version is acceptable.

But based on what they did so far in the current trilogy, I think a ER Jazz would be freaking awesome.
I'm looking forward to it.

I have no need for a new Jazz. I'm with Will on this one... the POTP Jazz is a nice looking figure, and the combining gimmick isn't obtrusive... frankly, he's better off not being used as a combiner limb, as neither his arm or leg modes are very stable.

Wondering if Cyclonus and possibly Soundwave are not Earthrise but the rumored Studio '86.

How does that even work, if Generations has been the GeeWun lineup? Seems redundant, but oh well. Cyclonus looks AWESOME.

Thrust pretty much sealed me buying Screamer yesterday. I love this mold. No regrets. I love its relative heft compared to the original Classics and its *just* diffetent enough in its tricks. I need some missile pods for it though.

Maverick is probably gonna be a buy on sight. Not enough Jet Autobots. My initial impression though based on the character art and the panel lines on the figure are that this is going to be more in the Studio Series Movie style which is sad but also not an unfitting way to do it.

Can we say "SDCC2020 Orphan?"

Bounti76 wrote:I have no need for a new Jazz. I'm with Will on this one... the POTP Jazz is a nice looking figure, and the combining gimmick isn't obtrusive... frankly, he's better off not being used as a combiner limb, as neither his arm or leg modes are very stable.

Imo, PotP Jazz is nice, but far from perfect. The vehicle is awesome but the transformation is a bit fiddly with lots of panels origami. Plus the hands are completely blocked. If you compare CW Wheelhack with his ER counterpart, they should be able to make a true "Mini Budget Masterpiece" with a ER Jazz. This could give us a preview of what a proper official MP Jazz would look like if Porche would stop sitting on their copyright for one minute.

POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.

Stargrave wrote:This part?

Yeah. That's the part.

When I did it, I wasn't expecting any character. Even on the Leader Class box the guy is tiny. The visor was the dead giveaway.

Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.

Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.

Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.

Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of shit.

At least if they screw up Jazz he's already got some decent figures.

My thoughts on my recent earthrise lot:

Hoists arms underneath the truck haven't bothered me as much in hand, they kind of look like suspension. If he had his g1 toys fists even more so as they would look like springs of some kind. He feels like he's missing some transformation that would have hidden them. Bonus points to the figure for having some mechanical detail/plastic when ankle tilting. Unlike a lot of other wfc with ankle tilts he doesn't look like a mma fighter whose kick has gone horribly wrong.

Ironworks yellow paint gives it a battle damage effect, but if it wasn't for that aesthetic it would look like an airfix model that's had the wrong finish paint applied to it. I want to like it but none of his modes are convincing.

Cliff jumper obviously didn't follow the none essential travel rules and got covid feet off of other bots like seaspray and mp bee. Other than his boat feet the jagged edge of the windscreen in bot mode is kinda an eyesore. Maybe the other uses for the mold that don't use light blue plastic won't be as noticeable. The legs are done well and he doesn't feel out of place size wise with cw/tr legends.

Honestly I don't think Jazz can be easily 'screwed up', as his G1 toy is basic as hell carformer stuff. My theory is POTP Jazz was a pretool of somebody else and/or an abandoned alternate CW car former engineering, such as an abandoned Stunticon design or some other car limb they dug back up to fill out the line.

Skritz wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.

Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.

Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of ****.

Mine is floppy when transforming. It's a pain to put him in bot or car mode, but once I'm there, he stay in place. My friend bought Select Stepper because he's such a Combiner nerd. His Stepper feel the exact same way as my Jazz.

Still, the worst Jazz ever is definitely WFC Jazz. PotP is divine compared to it.

sol magnus wrote:

Stargrave wrote:This part?

Yeah. That's the part.

That ain't Jazz.




The helmet's all wrong.

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Stargrave wrote:This part?

Yeah. That's the part.

That ain't Jazz.




The helmet's all wrong.

Seemed to me it wasn't exactly clear, just a visor, but maybe. I need to get a Sky Lynx to be sure.

PotP Jazz was OK, not groundbreaking, but still cool. He's a combiner limb for my Sky Reign, and i think he works well as an arm, has a really nice silhouette to him. But I would welcome a new one.

Have we head any news about any new potential Micromasters? Considering their small stature, I'm sort of surprised that we haven't had any leaks/factory samples that were "borrowed" for reviews. I feel like they'd be much easier to get a hold of, especially compared to Scorpinok

I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports

I'm hoping the transport are Deluxe or bigger and got an added robot mode so we can have the little micromaster lads inside an exo suit.

Skritz wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports

I'm hoping the transport are Deluxe or bigger and got an added robot mode so we can have the little micromaster lads inside an exo suit.

I could see that being a good way to bring in a Cybertron Menasor update because his original figure had a gimmick like that, though I can't remember how well that worked out

Skritz wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.

Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.

Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of ****.

I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.

Bounti76 wrote:I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.

Look like a "head or tail" scenario for that mold.

Having a Jazz with the current WFC trilogy engineering and quality would be really welcome. Seriously, I've yet to hear about a single true stinker in the current lines. There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.

Look like a "head or tail" scenario for that mold.

Having a Jazz with the current WFC trilogy engineering and quality would be really welcome. Seriously, I've yet to hear about a single true stinker in the current lines. There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Would he have to be his own new mold, or could he be a retooled Smokescreen, perhaps?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Would he have to be his own new mold, or could he be a retooled Smokescreen, perhaps?

Jazz should be his own new mold, of course. Smokescreen is a Datsun Bro so his mold will/can be milked enough with Prowl, Streak, and Barricade.

Then they could make a Select Stepper 2.0 who will not be a floppy mess.

-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje

Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.

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-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje

Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.

You guys are lucky, the first 4 earthrise figures I bought all had defects; o/p had a blown out shoulder, the pegs on grapple, wheeljack had a glued thigh, and ironworks' ramp hinge broke first time I transformed him

Hellscream9999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje

Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.

You guys are lucky, the first 4 earthrise figures I bought all had defects; o/p had a blown out shoulder, the pegs on grapple, wheeljack had a glued thigh, and ironworks' ramp hinge broke first time I transformed him

That's horrible. Makes me feel lucky.

That totally got me too I’ve had that with other lines like that but thank god not this line. Man, Ironworks too he’s way fun maybe the most fun and definitely the most versatile that’s a danged shame I’m sorry. I encourage you to keep trying.

Avoiding overquoting about the QC subject, maybe all my QC bad luck have been spent in 2017 and that's why I had no problem so far in Siege and Earthrise.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Avoiding overquoting about the QC subject, maybe all my QC bad luck have been spent in 2017 and that's why I had no problem so far in Siege and Earthrise.

The only line I experienced major QC issue was POTP, with a floppy-ass Jazz, missing weapons and/or painting errors I could not see inside the box. TR had a few minor but nearly every POTP figure I had suffered from from one popping or too stiff limb, misapplied paint/sticker or errors in their accessories. Nothing bad enough to warrant returning the figure however.

QC is always luck of the draw. My MP Beast Wars Megatron, for example, is perfectly fine. With not even a sign of a stress mark on the crouch. Yet when I sourced a boxed Platinum Edition Cyclonus last year, he had two left hands. The only time you really take notice of it is when you get a bad run.

The folks at the offical Transformers Twitter page have posted a nice picture showing Metroplex, Fort Max, Trypticon, and Scorponok all standing together

While he's not exactly Fort Max height, I'm still more than pleased with how well he's turning out. I can't wait to have him and the rest of the Decepticon Headmasters together on a shelf

Scorponoks meant to be here this month in UK so it won't be long now -probably longer for me from ordering it through amazon, just gotta wait for upgrade sets to happen. War for Cybertron and he leaves three of his guns at home pffft

Man, every time I see that Japanese Fort Max, I'm reminded of just how pleasing that version's deco is compared to the Hasbro and SDCC versions' decos (which, IMHO, pale in comparison).