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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:07 pm

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Gut gun and whip? Best Cheetor ever and I don't like Beast Wars figures.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:08 pm

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:17 pm

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Doesnt have pipes for shoulders nor spatula arms, looks a good improvement tbf. Though the scale with the cars... did they really just go with, well thats how big the toy is next to a toy car, might as well make him that size in the movie....but then again I forget baynus is adverse to shrink chips whilst having made up shrinking allspark :(
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:19 pm

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Wow, it borrows really heavily from the original.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:36 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.

No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.

At least this one gets the gun and ax.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:42 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.

No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.

At least this one gets the gun and ax.


Which makes me wonder if we are looking at ss voyager
Cheetor rather than the mainline deluxe
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:52 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.

No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.

At least this one gets the gun and ax.


Which makes me wonder if we are looking at ss voyager
Cheetor rather than the mainline deluxe
That might explain why it comes with the gun that Kingdom Tigatron had but Kingdom Cheetor didn't.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

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New Rise of the Beasts Cheetor Toy Seems to use Design Cues from Kingdom Mold

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:42 pm

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Vicegripx on Instagram posted several images of a Rise of the Beasts Cheetor toy. This is the deluxe class toy that will come out in the mainline and now the Studio Series toy. Interesting to see that he has a gun stored in his gut, which will make fans happy. While not a retool of the Kingdom Cheetor toy, some fans find them to share design cues with one another. Let us know what you think and enjoy the new pics!

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Re: New Rise of the Beasts Cheetor Toy Seems to use Design Cues from Kingdom Mold

Postby Autobot_Benz » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:30 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Vicegripx on Instagram posted several images of a Rise of the Beasts Cheetor toy. We do not know if this is the Studio Series voyager of the mainline deluxe toy. Size and inacuracy to what we've seen in the trailer (along with bright colours) hints at the deluxe, but the extra gun accessory and reuse of a kingdom mold like what happened with Studio Series Airazor could place it in the Studio Series. Let us know what you think and enjoy the new pics!



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The Gut Gun has storage as well. It still befuddles the mind they couldn't have come up with something to work with Kingdom Cheetor. I still think its fantastic
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby ThunderThruster » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:25 am

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It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:37 am

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ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.



I agree. One must be totally blind to see this as a Kingdom retool. There is absolutely ZERO reused parts anywhere, unlike SS Airaizor who is a clear and simple repaint of the Kingdom.

It still remain unclear if that Cheetor is the SS "voyager" though.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:37 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.



I agree. One must be totally blind to see this as a Kingdom retool. There is absolutely ZERO reused parts anywhere, unlike SS Airaizor who is a clear and simple repaint of the Kingdom.

It still remain unclear if that Cheetor is the SS "voyager" though.


It's the deluxe, we know that now. Looking at him in the trailer, he doesn't have the cheetah legs in his back so the SS will probably look more like his beast machines self than his original beast wars self, which this one emulates.
And good thing I didn't call it a retool since it isn't that. One thing about Airazor though, her SS toy shares no parts with the Kingdom figure either.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby RodimusPrimeUkraine1 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:05 am

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While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:46 am

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RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.


It's the exact same class as rotb deluxe airazor. But FYI, all these toys are made for kids, Studio Series too.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Hero Alpha » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:15 pm

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby RodimusPrimeUkraine1 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:05 pm

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RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.


It's the exact same class as ROTB deluxe Airazor. But FYI, all these toys are made for kids, Studio Series too.


My point was that the studio series deluxe Airazor looks bad, but I really digged the look of the other one, so I hope it is not the same here.
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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Ig89ninja » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:27 pm

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I am digging the Robot mode on this figure, the cheetah on the other hand…
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Why is the cat wearing pants? On that note, I kinda wish that the toy had more of a single color pallet, like either go full on the yellow with some copper paint for robot mode or vice-versa.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:10 pm

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:56 am

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby Emerje » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:38 am

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ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.

It's what we like to call "shared engineering". Same transformation but no parts in common.

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:29 pm

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Re: Rise of the Beasts Toyline Discussion

Postby RodimusPrimeUkraine1 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:28 pm

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Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
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