Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide
Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 7:12AM CDT
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Hasbro has responded to questions posed over at the IDW forums and some VERY interesting answers have been provided. Most importantly that Cyclonus will be much closer to his proto-type purple and that a running change for Ironhide is in store.
Check out the thread here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopi ... 67a21ffefa
or take a read here:
1.) Any chance of seeing Universe 2.0 Voyager Onslaught remolded/recolored into G1 Hardhead?
1) I'd say that's a good possibility for a repaint either for our main line or an exclusive. But when ever possible, I try to offer more than just a straight repaint, such as a new head or weapon. So I might have to sketch up some options and see just what I can come up with.
2.) Why did you choose that particular deco for Universe 2.0 Deluxe Cyclonus and Nightstick, which differs radically from the prototype? Many fans liked the purple prototype.
2) Sometimes test shots come in and all of the molds are not cast in the correct colors. But that's why test shots exist, so that we can catch those problems before the toy is produced. In this example, an image of a Cyclonus testshot was released and fans had issues. But rest assured, the mold is going to remain purple and match the initial prototype image.
3.) And chance for new-mold Universe 2.0 combiners teams/gestalts?
3) The typical gestalts require a price point higher than any of the ones we have established in the short-term in Universe, so we won't be tooling up any new Universe gestalt molds for 2009. But we really like the combiner idea and would like to add some new combiner play in the relative near future (no specific plans or line decided - we are talking about it).
4.) Why the baby blue for Universe 2.0 Ironhide's face? It was originally silver, which was correct. It changed from proto to production to baby-blue. Ironically Robot Heroes Ironhide came out at the same time, he had the correct silver face. Why the difference?
4) It's supposed to be silver. When I last saw the final paint on the figure it was silver. But somehow in the development process, someone somewhere picked up a blue brush instead of the silver one. We are currently making a "running change" on the face so future Ironhides will
be correct.
5.) Will we see more Headmasters toys in Universe 2.0? If so, will they be based on IDW Headmasters? How about a Sunstreaker with headmaster Hunter?
5) I hope we'll be seeing more Headmasters in the future for Universe. If we continue to celebrate all of the different eras of Transformers there will certainly be some more headmasters to redesign. I'm not too sure about seeing a Sunstreaker with Hunter...we had already done a Sunstreaker in Deluxe so having another Sunstreaker offered again just a year later might be tough. But we'll try to get some fun stuff in the line for you guys.
Check out the thread here:
http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopi ... 67a21ffefa
or take a read here:
1.) Any chance of seeing Universe 2.0 Voyager Onslaught remolded/recolored into G1 Hardhead?
1) I'd say that's a good possibility for a repaint either for our main line or an exclusive. But when ever possible, I try to offer more than just a straight repaint, such as a new head or weapon. So I might have to sketch up some options and see just what I can come up with.
2.) Why did you choose that particular deco for Universe 2.0 Deluxe Cyclonus and Nightstick, which differs radically from the prototype? Many fans liked the purple prototype.
2) Sometimes test shots come in and all of the molds are not cast in the correct colors. But that's why test shots exist, so that we can catch those problems before the toy is produced. In this example, an image of a Cyclonus testshot was released and fans had issues. But rest assured, the mold is going to remain purple and match the initial prototype image.
3.) And chance for new-mold Universe 2.0 combiners teams/gestalts?
3) The typical gestalts require a price point higher than any of the ones we have established in the short-term in Universe, so we won't be tooling up any new Universe gestalt molds for 2009. But we really like the combiner idea and would like to add some new combiner play in the relative near future (no specific plans or line decided - we are talking about it).
4.) Why the baby blue for Universe 2.0 Ironhide's face? It was originally silver, which was correct. It changed from proto to production to baby-blue. Ironically Robot Heroes Ironhide came out at the same time, he had the correct silver face. Why the difference?
4) It's supposed to be silver. When I last saw the final paint on the figure it was silver. But somehow in the development process, someone somewhere picked up a blue brush instead of the silver one. We are currently making a "running change" on the face so future Ironhides will
be correct.
5.) Will we see more Headmasters toys in Universe 2.0? If so, will they be based on IDW Headmasters? How about a Sunstreaker with headmaster Hunter?
5) I hope we'll be seeing more Headmasters in the future for Universe. If we continue to celebrate all of the different eras of Transformers there will certainly be some more headmasters to redesign. I'm not too sure about seeing a Sunstreaker with Hunter...we had already done a Sunstreaker in Deluxe so having another Sunstreaker offered again just a year later might be tough. But we'll try to get some fun stuff in the line for you guys.
Credit(s): tomy1381, IDWpublishing Forums
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Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813200)
Posted by Autobotic9 on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:17am CDT
Posted by Autobotic9 on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:17am CDT
Thank god i held out on ironhide yet. I was gonna henkei it because i knew his face should not be blue.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813207)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:24am CDT
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:24am CDT
Glad that he didn't say no to anything. Shame he didn't say yes to anything either. I also "hope" we see some Headmasters soon. I too "really like" the combiner idea.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813220)
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:44am CDT
I don't think they can say 'yes' to anything. These Q & A sessions are almost always just a teaser event. Always just enough to get you interested, but not enough that a statement is unretractable.
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:44am CDT
Diem wrote:Glad that he didn't say no to anything. Shame he didn't say yes to anything either.
I don't think they can say 'yes' to anything. These Q & A sessions are almost always just a teaser event. Always just enough to get you interested, but not enough that a statement is unretractable.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813236)
Posted by HighPrime on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:04am CDT
Posted by HighPrime on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:04am CDT
Everyone should be charging to the stores to pick up Ironhide now before it's too late. In 10 years people will be "coveting" the blue face 
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813240)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:06am CDT
Grr...who do I have to shag to get Universe Horrorcons?
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:06am CDT
Sadly that means that all these answers need to be taken with a pinch of salt...Counterpunch wrote:I don't think they can say 'yes' to anything. These Q & A sessions are almost always just a teaser event. Always just enough to get you interested, but not enough that a statement is unretractable.
Grr...who do I have to shag to get Universe Horrorcons?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813260)
Posted by Auto Bot on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:33am CDT
Posted by Auto Bot on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:33am CDT
I'm a bit lost here.
Was there a Universe 2.0 Voyager Onslaught? Is this gonna be a new mold? Or just a typo error?
Ultra? Voyager?
Was there a Universe 2.0 Voyager Onslaught? Is this gonna be a new mold? Or just a typo error?
Ultra? Voyager?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813263)
Posted by Delta Supreme on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:37am CDT
Posted by Delta Supreme on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:37am CDT
Wait a minute...
It'll be "too much for us to stomach" getting a headmaster Sunstreaker, but we can get a "cartoon accurate" repaint of 'screamer within a year???
You'd think that adding a whole new head system would be a much more substantial (read purchasable) remold than the upteenth straight up repaint of the F15 seeker mold...
It'll be "too much for us to stomach" getting a headmaster Sunstreaker, but we can get a "cartoon accurate" repaint of 'screamer within a year???
You'd think that adding a whole new head system would be a much more substantial (read purchasable) remold than the upteenth straight up repaint of the F15 seeker mold...
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813276)
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:47am CDT
The cake is a lie.
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:47am CDT
Cyclonus wrote:Wait a minute...
It'll be "too much for us to stomach" getting a headmaster Sunstreaker, but we can get a "cartoon accurate" repaint of 'screamer within a year???
You'd think that adding a whole new head system would be a much more substantial (read purchasable) remold than the upteenth straight up repaint of the F15 seeker mold...
The cake is a lie.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813278)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:48am CDT
The Starscreams are well over a year apart. And if you think a seeker mould won't sell you need to lurk moar.
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:48am CDT
Delta Supreme wrote:Wait a minute...
It'll be "too much for us to stomach" getting a headmaster Sunstreaker, but we can get a "cartoon accurate" repaint of 'screamer within a year???
You'd think that adding a whole new head system would be a much more substantial (read purchasable) remold than the upteenth straight up repaint of the F15 seeker mold...
The Starscreams are well over a year apart. And if you think a seeker mould won't sell you need to lurk moar.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813280)
Posted by Sledge on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:57am CDT
Posted by Sledge on October 15th, 2008 @ 8:57am CDT
So the test shot images of Cyclonus are what some of us said they probably were? Cool. Now I'd like someone to explain again how these stolen items ending up on ebay is always good for Hasbro.
And jeez, I wish people would stop requesting obscure shit. Headmaster Sunstreaker? Yeah, good one.
That's what we're all wanting when we think "updated Headmaster."
And jeez, I wish people would stop requesting obscure shit. Headmaster Sunstreaker? Yeah, good one.
That's what we're all wanting when we think "updated Headmaster."
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813294)
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:17am CDT
Classics Skywarp and Acid Storm need a word with you.
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:17am CDT
Cyclonus wrote:Cyclonus wrote:Wait a minute...
It'll be "too much for us to stomach" getting a headmaster Sunstreaker, but we can get a "cartoon accurate" repaint of 'screamer within a year???
You'd think that adding a whole new head system would be a much more substantial (read purchasable) remold than the upteenth straight up repaint of the F15 seeker mold...
The Starscreams are well over a year apart. And if you think a seeker mould won't sell you need to lurk moar.
Classics Skywarp and Acid Storm need a word with you.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813297)
Posted by Hard Hacker on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:20am CDT
Posted by Hard Hacker on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:20am CDT
More Headmasters will be a welcome addition to the collection.
Well, mine anyway.
Well, mine anyway.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813305)
Posted by Powersa on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:31am CDT
Posted by Powersa on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:31am CDT
I'm suprised that someone from Hasbro admits that the blue face on Ironhide is a mistake.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813313)
Posted by Nickolai on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:45am CDT
Posted by Nickolai on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:45am CDT
Is this one of those hobbies/secondary markets where if, say, only about 5-10% of the Universe Ironhides came out with the blue face they'd be worth $$$ to collectors?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813321)
Posted by dragons on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:51am CDT
Posted by dragons on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:51am CDT
ironh hide hace is blue? im going to have to check that out well it looks like cyclonus problem is fixed so all of us in the us may not have to go to get henkei version only of cyclonus thats good to here.
thats good they fixing these issues i thought they where getting lazy and shipping any figure no matter wht they llook like
thats good they fixing these issues i thought they where getting lazy and shipping any figure no matter wht they llook like
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813325)
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:55am CDT
No.
Read up on Energon Optimus Prime.
Posted by Counterpunch on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:55am CDT
Cyclonus wrote:Is this one of those hobbies/secondary markets where if, say, only about 5-10% of the Universe Ironhides came out with the blue face they'd be worth $$$ to collectors?
No.
Read up on Energon Optimus Prime.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813329)
Posted by bcm77 on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:58am CDT
Posted by bcm77 on October 15th, 2008 @ 9:58am CDT
It's nice that the Universe Cyclonus is not going to look as half assed as in the most recent pics but I'm still going to see what the Henkei version is like first.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813495)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 15th, 2008 @ 1:55pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 15th, 2008 @ 1:55pm CDT
Wait Ironhide has a blue face? Any one got a pic so i can see?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813568)
Posted by breakthru on October 15th, 2008 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by breakthru on October 15th, 2008 @ 2:45pm CDT
Won't affect me. I'll be holding out for the Henkei versions anyway.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813588)
Posted by TankedThomas on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by TankedThomas on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:06pm CDT
Yay, I got credited for the mention of this subject. I'm happy to hear about Cyclonus. Headmasters would rule - who on Earth wants a Sunstreaker Headmaster first though?! Maybe they're from Cybertron... Okay, bad joke.
Ironhide is not even out in New Zealand yet, as far as I can recall, so hopefully he doesn't have a blue face in our first shipment but I'll wait just in case, since the EMP generator gimmick for Animated Ratchet that was stuffed and fixed in later releases wasn't fixed in the early shipments to New Zealand and I had to "fix" mine (okay, so it holds the EMP generator but no longer activates it. Better than vice versa).
Exciting news, today. This along with all the other news like that awesome-looking Armada Hotshot (and that badass Jolt) is really making my day!
Ironhide is not even out in New Zealand yet, as far as I can recall, so hopefully he doesn't have a blue face in our first shipment but I'll wait just in case, since the EMP generator gimmick for Animated Ratchet that was stuffed and fixed in later releases wasn't fixed in the early shipments to New Zealand and I had to "fix" mine (okay, so it holds the EMP generator but no longer activates it. Better than vice versa).
Exciting news, today. This along with all the other news like that awesome-looking Armada Hotshot (and that badass Jolt) is really making my day!
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813621)
Posted by Delicon on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by Delicon on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:31pm CDT
I for one will probably end up buyiong both Ironhides, especially if they stay $7.77 at Wal-Mart. You never know when a variant will be worth money, especially since I haven't heard any word on how many Ironhides came out the first way. If there are already tens of thousands out there, it's a totally different story.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813630)
Posted by Savage on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Savage on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:44pm CDT
Ironhide and Sideswipe havent shown up in my area yet, but now I'll be sure to check Ironhide's face color before I buy one. Coincidently, anyone know if his face can be seen well enough to determine color while he's packaged?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813634)
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:48pm CDT
Unfortunately not. Luck of the draw with that one unless someone gets a silver face to sell/trade.
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:48pm CDT
Savage wrote:Ironhide and Sideswipe havent shown up in my area yet, but now I'll be sure to check Ironhide's face color before I buy one. Coincidently, anyone know if his face can be seen well enough to determine color while he's packaged?
Unfortunately not. Luck of the draw with that one unless someone gets a silver face to sell/trade.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813638)
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:51pm CDT
Closest one I could find. It belongs to someone here at Seibertron.
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:51pm CDT
Megatron_Wolf wrote:Wait Ironhide has a blue face? Any one got a pic so i can see?
Closest one I could find. It belongs to someone here at Seibertron.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813641)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:56pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on October 15th, 2008 @ 3:56pm CDT
I'm still getting the Henkei version of Ironhide...
Right now I'm thinking Hasbro's Cyclonus will suffice, but we'll have to see what Henkei can muster up.
Thanks for sharing, CP.
Right now I'm thinking Hasbro's Cyclonus will suffice, but we'll have to see what Henkei can muster up.
Thanks for sharing, CP.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813650)
Posted by shortround on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:05pm CDT
Posted by shortround on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:05pm CDT
Well I'm glad I have baby blue ironhide should be worth some money down the line.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813658)
Posted by partholon on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:18pm CDT
Posted by partholon on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:18pm CDT
ok im probably being spectacularly dumb here but what other headmaster have they done already?
first master i thought they did was target master cyclonus!
first master i thought they did was target master cyclonus!
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813675)
Posted by Agent 007 on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:30pm CDT
Posted by Agent 007 on October 15th, 2008 @ 4:30pm CDT
me thinks I'll hold off on Ironhide for a bit then.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813725)
Posted by joeformer on October 15th, 2008 @ 5:13pm CDT
Posted by joeformer on October 15th, 2008 @ 5:13pm CDT
I think there are way too many repaints but if they can change something about the figure its makes it interesting. headmasters ia a great idea and sunstreaker with hunter is an awesome idea. we have 90 million seekers molds why not this one?
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813727)
Posted by Sledge on October 15th, 2008 @ 5:18pm CDT
Posted by Sledge on October 15th, 2008 @ 5:18pm CDT
Because I will slap to death the person who makes Hasbro make that retarded idea instead of a Universe Snapdragon.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (813808)
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:36pm CDT
Di-bloody-tto.
Posted by Diem on October 15th, 2008 @ 7:36pm CDT
Sledge wrote:Because I will slap to death the person who makes Hasbro make that retarded idea instead of a Universe Snapdragon.
Di-bloody-tto.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (814301)
Posted by SentinelA on October 16th, 2008 @ 12:28pm CDT
Posted by SentinelA on October 16th, 2008 @ 12:28pm CDT
This news about Ironhide makes me rethink getting the Henkei. Still hate the OREGON tag.
If they're gonna do Cyclonus in the right color maybe they're fix Brawn and Beachcomber.
If they're gonna do Cyclonus in the right color maybe they're fix Brawn and Beachcomber.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (814360)
Posted by Dagon on October 16th, 2008 @ 2:07pm CDT
Yeah. When we clamor for a headmaster Sunstreaker, I think we as a collective fandom need to go outside and play or chase girls or something.
Posted by Dagon on October 16th, 2008 @ 2:07pm CDT
Diem wrote:Sledge wrote:Because I will slap to death the person who makes Hasbro make that retarded idea instead of a Universe Snapdragon.
Di-bloody-tto.
Yeah. When we clamor for a headmaster Sunstreaker, I think we as a collective fandom need to go outside and play or chase girls or something.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (815025)
Posted by Dread_Wing on October 17th, 2008 @ 6:17am CDT
Posted by Dread_Wing on October 17th, 2008 @ 6:17am CDT
Surely the easiest way to do a headmaster Sunstreaker is just to reissue the Universe 2.0 Sunstreaker (maybe with some black paint apps, I painted mine, it looks a lot better) and instead of the rising head, just have a ball joint peg or socket of some sort rise up. Then have the headmaster attach. Instant headmaster with neck movement, and cheap as hell to do. (Compared with a completely new mould)
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (815044)
Posted by Dachande on October 17th, 2008 @ 7:29am CDT
Posted by Dachande on October 17th, 2008 @ 7:29am CDT
Blue face or silver face, Ironhide still looks like a "re-built after a massive explosion" SUV. If they could fix the horrendous joins and baby-blue windows, I'll consider purchasing one.
Re: Hasbro Responds RE: Universe Cyclonus & Ironhide (815401)
Posted by jduckworth27 on October 17th, 2008 @ 3:07pm CDT
Posted by jduckworth27 on October 17th, 2008 @ 3:07pm CDT
the universe ironhide has one of the worst alt modes i've ever seen. it's too bad. the character deserves a lot better than what has been released. the bot mode is ok i guess, but man that "suv" mode looks like crap.
